Joy Division / New Order thread

[blue for life]

Just your normal gobshite rag.

He can piss off then. Rag twat. I am sure his ex wife Caroline was a blue. RIP

 

[AJ71]

Just your normal gobshite rag.

Pretty sure he had no interest / knowledge of football, but jumped on the Rag bandwagon in the 90's

 

[Nightmare Walking]

He can piss off then. Rag twat. I am sure his ex wife Caroline was a blue. RIP

I know Hooky spray painted Mufc and Salford rules on their amp cabinets, but that was just to piss Barney off.

After reading all their books, it seems the pair of them were not that arsed about football. Seems like Ian Curtis was the biggest football fan out of them all and he was a blue.

 

[Barcon]

Wasn’t it Hooky who said City are like a tramp who’s found a wad of cash whilst searching the bins (ie: no class)

He better not have, the fat ****.

 

[Ashleymcduff]

He should let Pottsy sing the NO tunes though, he absolutely crucifies them.

So does Bernard these days , awful singer

 

[Out on blue 6]

I've read most of the books on JD and NO and there's very little reference to football at all. Ian was supposedly a blue and Wilson was definitely a rag. The biggest football fan was Rob Gretton and he was a huge City fan. I remember him walking up the steps at Boundary Park sometime in the 90s I think with his customary fag hanging out his mouth. Top man Rob

 

[stonerblue]

Unfortunately I've got "Video Unavailable" here in the US of A -- which tune/record?

One of the last things I did before COVID was head down/out to Miami for one of their residency shows in January, combining it with a business trip. I went by myself which is always a little sad but what a blast it was. I don't care that they're older; I miss Hooky but the tunes are so good that him not being there isn't any kind of issue for me. I've been to a half dozen shows or so over the years and am longing for them, some day, to play Thieves Like Us which is my all-time favo(u)rite in an ocean of fantastic tunes. They'll always be my #1 band. I'll be buried with a City scarf and a either PCL CD or my TLU vinyl 12-inch.

Crystal, off crystal.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

So does Bernard these days , awful singer

Is that not the point of having Bernard as the singer?
It was a total break from Ian Curtis. How do replace a guy who's voice fitted the music perfectly and who also bared his soul through his lyrics? You can't replace him, if they had tried then it would have been a pale imitation. That's why Hooky was not the singer. Hooky might actually have a better voice, but because of the timbre, it would have sounded like he was aping Ian Curtis.
Although Bernard tried to mimic Ian Curtis on movement, he soon found his own voice and New Order thrived because of it, they became two distinct bands. Bernard has never been able to sing, but he is not at the Ian Brown level of terrible singers.
Now it is clear you are Hooky fan, that's fair enough. I much prefer the other 3. Hooky has been replaced in New Order and truth be told it has made no difference. New Order could be terrible when Hooky was in the band. Bernard was the key man in New Order. He sang, wrote the lyrics and wrote most of the songs.

 

[Ashleymcduff]

Is that not the point of having Bernard as the singer?
It was a total break from Ian Curtis. How do replace a guy who's voice fitted the music perfectly and who also bared his soul through his lyrics? You can't replace him, if they had tried then it would have been a pale imitation. That's why Hooky was not the singer. Hooky might actually have a better voice, but because of the timbre, it would have sounded like he was aping Ian Curtis.
Although Bernard tried to mimic Ian Curtis on movement, he soon found his own voice and New Order thrived because of it, they became two distinct bands. Bernard has never been able to sing, but he is not at the Ian Brown level of terrible singers.
Now it is clear you are Hooky fan, that's fair enough. I much prefer the other 3. Hooky has been replaced in New Order and truth be told it has made no difference. New Order could be terrible when Hooky was in the band. Bernard was the key man in New Order. He sang, wrote the lyrics and wrote most of the songs.

i no hooky fan by any means , just think Bernard is a shit house .

also as a musician you can tell the difference no one plays the bass on those songs like hooky. The new guy isn’t a patch

 

[johnnytapia]

Same here with substance and technique.

I had substance on vinyl with the red and blue sleeves, 1963 and true faith i played 24/7.

I had substance on twin cassette. Played them to death.