Jude Bellingham

Until recently … Englands all time ever goal scorer ?

253 goals for Man Utd and there all time top scorer.

won 16 trophies and became the only English player to win the Premier League, FA Cup, UEFA Champions League, League Cup, UEFA Europa League.

Pretty sure he was dedicated and professional to achieve all that.

There's no doubt he was a good player. Shagging granny prostitutes, drinking until he passes out, smoking, coming back for pre-season as fat as a pig etc. Wasted talent. Look at the fucking state of him now.

Can remember one of the Utd coaches saying that when he joined Utd he was the A-side not Ronaldo. Rooney had loads of ability but compared to Ronaldo's drive to become the best he could be it's like chalk and cheese.
 
There's no doubt he was a good player. Shagging granny prostitutes, drinking until he passes out, smoking, coming back for pre-season as fat as a pig etc. Wasted talent. Look at the fucking state of him now.

Can remember one of the Utd coaches saying that when he joined Utd he was the A-side not Ronaldo. Rooney had loads of ability but compared to Ronaldo's drive to become the best he could be it's like chalk and cheese.

Yeah, but apart from that?
 
There's no doubt he was a good player. Shagging granny prostitutes, drinking until he passes out, smoking, coming back for pre-season as fat as a pig etc. Wasted talent. Look at the fucking state of him now.

Can remember one of the Utd coaches saying that when he joined Utd he was the A-side not Ronaldo. Rooney had loads of ability but compared to Ronaldo's drive to become the best he could be it's like chalk and cheese.

I get what you’re saying and it’s an interesting one - but ultimately he achieved success at the highest level, broke records for club and country and played until he was 35. It’s hard to criticise his career when he achieved so much.
 
I get what you’re saying and it’s an interesting one - but ultimately he achieved success at the highest level, broke records for club and country and played until he was 35. It’s hard to criticise his career when he achieved so much.

He had to be a decent player to do all those things and still carve out the career he had. Personally think he was a wasted talent and from an English perspective it's a real shame. He was probably odds on after Euro 2004 to win a Balon D'or or two. Can't recall many people of any nationality having the kind of impact like he did on that tournament. Not knowing at the time that would be his peak I genuinely thought we finally had 'one'. May be regarded as a rag and English great but nowhere near an international one.
 
Yeh fair enough, for England though I genuinely think we’ve lacked a certain bastard on the pitch and we’ve always just been too ‘nice’ - at international level I hope he can replicate what he’s doing come the Euros.
Needs a huge kick up the arse. Absolutely no awareness of what's going on around him. Seriously, he needs a reality check because he's obviously able but grifting in the Spanish league shouldn't be his peak as a proffesional.
 
Needs a huge kick up the arse. Absolutely no awareness of what's going on around him. Seriously, he needs a reality check because he's obviously able but grifting in the Spanish league shouldn't be his peak as a proffesional.
Which is why he didn't join us.

He'd have had to work hard and become disciplined. Why do that when he could get double bubble at Real and get his helmet polished on a daily basis?
 
Which is why he didn't join us.

He'd have had to work hard and become disciplined. Why do that when he could get double bubble at Real and get his helmet polished on a daily basis?
Good point. Wanted easy street .
There was also a certain level of hype around his brother recently, that fell flat. Problem being the press will have Phil benched before they'll admit he's not on Phils level.
 

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