Julian Alvarez | Signs for City (see main forum)

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loio said:
I don't see Kun level of talent.. but he was absolutely exceptional talent even at the start of his Atletico* career and a fair bit younger then. A lot of people actually forget that Kun was a wonderkid. If Alvarez gets even close to Kun or Tevez he will be an exceptional player and his style seems very useful for Pep and mouldable.

(*La Liga is my primary focus)
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But then compare him with a 21 year old Harry Kane or Robert Lewandowski and he comes out pretty favourably.
 
This is surely a backup striker option for the season after next. Great talent and exciting potential but not one for the "here and now".
 
Tevez City said:
Its like your father buy a PS5 for you, and then tell you that you will not open it until next year.


COME ON Pep, if you buy him now, let him start the next game so the fans can enjoy their new gift :)
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Patience is a virtue!

If the best way to get him is “buy now, move later” then that seems like a sound plan…and one we employed with Jesus!

The SAM season is a problem for European teams, so they have to be flexible.
 
It seems to me a risk to sign him and leave him in Argentina and Copa Libertadores where not only the level is not very high (being nice!) but also can get very violent, and give them the chance of injuring him. I’m also skeptical that River Plate will “take care” of him that well based on previous history

Understanding this is a Torres replacement, I should warn everyone his potential is nowhere near the Spanish’s. If the idea was to add a South American forward to the squad for the local fans, I’d have looked at Yuri Alberto at Internacional (has a thread here) or even another Alvarez, Agustin Alvarez at Penarol (Uruguay), both would be around the same price. But if it’s him, I hope it works, of course
 
The concern for me in the video above is that he’s doing a ton of work playing with great pace to hit quick counters. We need our players able to stare at a wall of 9 men and try to combine through that mess anyway.

I’ll never complain about signing a big talent. He doesn’t really seem like Kun to me but of course you understand the comparisons due to country
 
teddykgb said:
The concern for me in the video above is that he’s doing a ton of work playing with great pace to hit quick counters. We need our players able to stare at a wall of 9 men and try to combine through that mess anyway.
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My problem is exactly that I have seen too many times do absolutely nothing in certain games with this feature. But hey, Torres replacement indeed hahaha
 
teddykgb said:
The concern for me in the video above is that he’s doing a ton of work playing with great pace to hit quick counters. We need our players able to stare at a wall of 9 men and try to combine through that mess anyway.

I’ll never complain about signing a big talent. He doesn’t really seem like Kun to me but of course you understand the comparisons due to country
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This is why Aguero was the best striker for us. He had that quick turn and sharp acceleration when on the break but he could also weave through narrow channels and create space for other attackers as well. Hope Pep can do some good work on this Alvarez kid.
 
BrazilianBlue (Gus) said:
It seems to me a risk to sign him and leave him in Argentina and Copa Libertadores where not only the level is not very high (being nice!) but also can get very violent, and give them the chance of injuring him. I’m also skeptical that River Plate will “take care” of him that well based on previous history

Understanding this is a Torres replacement, I should warn everyone his potential is nowhere near the Spanish’s. If the idea was to add a South American forward to the squad for the local fans, I’d have looked at Yuri Alberto at Internacional (has a thread here) or even another Alvarez, Agustin Alvarez at Penarol (Uruguay), both would be around the same price. But if it’s him, I hope it works, of course
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I agree with some but respectfully disagree with other points.

Agree:
Yuri Alberto is better. I think he's a cut above the rest.

Disagree:
Agustin being better than Julian. Similar tier. Agustin is better in the air, back to goal and off ball movement. I think Julian is better on the ball, in space and has a stronger weaker foot.

As for Ferran, yeah his ceiling is likely higher. However there are a few things that I think Julian is better. I think their pace is roughly the same but Julian has a quicker first step to beat his man. Ferran's off the ball movement are definitely better but Julian, right now anyway, has much better striker or in the box IQ. I feel Julian is also better at pressing.

Time will tell though ofc, I'll root for whoever wears the sky blue shirt!
 
MCFCFanTX said:
Agustin being better than Julian. Similar tier. Agustin is better in the air, back to goal and off ball movement. I think Julian is better on the ball, in space and has a stronger weaker foot.
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I didn’t say Agustin IS better than Julian, I’m just visualizing his potential to be better all around in a few years. (Also a year younger)

MCFCFanTX said:
I think their pace is roughly the same but Julian has a quicker first step to beat his man. Ferran's off the ball movement are definitely better but Julian, right now anyway, has much better striker or in the box IQ. I feel Julian is also better at pressing.
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I have a hard time with this because Ferran has been playing at a much higher level. Argentinian football doesn’t demand much. On “striker IQ” especially I think Ferran has already improved so much in the past 12 months or even more (I remember him vs Germany, november 2020, extraordinary performance).

If I’m being honest, I don’t think Alvarez will be an important name in our squad in the coming years — which Ferran himself wasn’t, so no big deal there. I would love to be proven wrong. But as far as planning next season’s squad, I don’t think his presence changes anything
 
BrazilianBlue (Gus) said:
I didn’t say Agustin IS better than Julian, I’m just visualizing his potential to be better all around in a few years. (Also a year younger)


I have a hard time with this because Ferran has been playing at a much higher level. Argentinian football doesn’t demand much. On “striker IQ” especially I think Ferran has already improved so much in the past 12 months or even more (I remember him vs Germany, november 2020, extraordinary performance).

If I’m being honest, I don’t think Alvarez will be an important name in our squad in the coming years — which Ferran himself wasn’t, so no big deal there. I would love to be proven wrong. But as far as planning next season’s squad, I don’t think his presence changes anything
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That's fair and I agree. The step up from River Plate in Argentina to the best team in the world in premier league is huge. He'll need to improve aspects of his game for sure to move the needle for our squad.
 
I like to think we buy a player with the knowledge that Txiki knows this player fits our system and is willing to come to us, while Pep and his team can make him very much better.

As it is now, that’s all except wait for the player to actually make his debut for us.
 
BlueBanger said:
This is surely a backup striker option for the season after next. Great talent and exciting potential but not one for the "here and now".
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To me there is more sense in bringing him in here and now than buying him for the future. At that fee, with two spare squad spaces, a player down that we began the season counting on, and no striker options to even attempt as an alternative in a tight game.

I'd rather see him come in now and get used to things under less pressure, than when he has to compete with a first choice striker and squad places are at a premium.
 
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