The Fixer
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mackenzie said:
No get the right/best fcuking manager out there instead of settling for second best!!
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No get the right/best fcuking manager out there instead of settling for second best!!
zandvoort blue
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Perhaps it takes someone to take Mancini to one side to point out thatmackenzie said:Fixer
What is the bloody alternative?
Stick your head up the arse of yet ANOTHER Manager??
1 Martin Petrov is not a right winger
2 Barry and De Jong is currently not working
3 Stephen Ireland is wasted on the wing
4 Boyata needs to be taken out of the team at the moment
5 Please do not play 3 holding midfielders
6 Zab in defence is a liability
JoeMercer'sWay
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It's Mancini's way. Also, would he have the players he has if he had had Hughes's budget last summer? No.
The reliance on these decent homegrown players is a double-edged sword. They have the experience, but are they good enough?
For me there is concrete evidence that Mancini doesn't know the players well enough, their strengths or weaknesses and obviously doesn't trust or value some of them enough. Look at Ireland, restricted, Bellamy out of form as soon as Mancini comes in. Onouha can't get a game, Barry I think is on borrowed time, Sweep doesn't get a game today. Adebayor comes back and is straight in, it shows who Mancini believes in and trusts. It also doesn't help that Ireland and Barry have been out of form all season.
I have no doubt that the likes of Barry, Ireland, SWP, Bellamy would not be here if Mancini had been manager since ADUG took over. They're not his type of players, they are not his way of playing. We'd have bought Zanetti and Cambiasso types of midfielders, Samuel and Chivu types of defenders with the attacking threat coming from the fullbacks of Maxwell and Maicon quality, with the top notch keeper behind. When did Mancini ever play with out and out wingers?
You have to accept that we're in transition, and that it's going to take Mancini time. He is a quality manager as his record shows, but his way is completely different to Hughes, and everything in the club has been made into Hughes way in such a short space of time. It's not ideal, but we just have to scrap and fight into a Champions League spot and give Mancini absolute power in the transfer market in the summer, he has a track record of excellent purchases, and he should be entitled to an entire squad of his own players. Best player on the pitch today? his signing Adam Johnson. The problems are stemming from Hughes signings, the fact is Mancini may not be doing a better job, but the buck stops with the players and Hughes, he bought them. Mancini is just trying to find a way of making them work to the level we need them too so we can score goals without letting 3 in the other way, unfortunately he has to do this mid-season.
I fear Mancini may not get much of a chance. I only hope that the owners aren't as blind as some fans and give him the 3 and a half years, give him the budget in the summer and back him. The shortcomings now are stemming from the previous reign, but we are still in the FA Cup and still in the hunt for the Champions League with games in hand. Yes we slipped up today, but we're a work in progress and as the players and manager build a stronger understanding and Mancini works out what's best for us(which I trust him to do), we will only get better in my opinion.
Sometimes you have to take 1 step back to take 2 forwards.
The reliance on these decent homegrown players is a double-edged sword. They have the experience, but are they good enough?
For me there is concrete evidence that Mancini doesn't know the players well enough, their strengths or weaknesses and obviously doesn't trust or value some of them enough. Look at Ireland, restricted, Bellamy out of form as soon as Mancini comes in. Onouha can't get a game, Barry I think is on borrowed time, Sweep doesn't get a game today. Adebayor comes back and is straight in, it shows who Mancini believes in and trusts. It also doesn't help that Ireland and Barry have been out of form all season.
I have no doubt that the likes of Barry, Ireland, SWP, Bellamy would not be here if Mancini had been manager since ADUG took over. They're not his type of players, they are not his way of playing. We'd have bought Zanetti and Cambiasso types of midfielders, Samuel and Chivu types of defenders with the attacking threat coming from the fullbacks of Maxwell and Maicon quality, with the top notch keeper behind. When did Mancini ever play with out and out wingers?
You have to accept that we're in transition, and that it's going to take Mancini time. He is a quality manager as his record shows, but his way is completely different to Hughes, and everything in the club has been made into Hughes way in such a short space of time. It's not ideal, but we just have to scrap and fight into a Champions League spot and give Mancini absolute power in the transfer market in the summer, he has a track record of excellent purchases, and he should be entitled to an entire squad of his own players. Best player on the pitch today? his signing Adam Johnson. The problems are stemming from Hughes signings, the fact is Mancini may not be doing a better job, but the buck stops with the players and Hughes, he bought them. Mancini is just trying to find a way of making them work to the level we need them too so we can score goals without letting 3 in the other way, unfortunately he has to do this mid-season.
I fear Mancini may not get much of a chance. I only hope that the owners aren't as blind as some fans and give him the 3 and a half years, give him the budget in the summer and back him. The shortcomings now are stemming from the previous reign, but we are still in the FA Cup and still in the hunt for the Champions League with games in hand. Yes we slipped up today, but we're a work in progress and as the players and manager build a stronger understanding and Mancini works out what's best for us(which I trust him to do), we will only get better in my opinion.
Sometimes you have to take 1 step back to take 2 forwards.
CheethamHillBlue
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fathellensbellend said:because its the kind of thing i would expect a kid to write, thats all
if this is the level and the style of football, please go now, its turgid narrow shite.
Signed FHBE aged 13 and 3/4?
And i thought it was just me that thought exactly thiszandvoort blue said:Perhaps it takes someone to take Mancini to one side to point out thatmackenzie said:Fixer
What is the bloody alternative?
Stick your head up the arse of yet ANOTHER Manager??
1 Martin Petrov is not a right winger
2 Barry and De Jong is currently not working
3 Stephen Ireland is wasted on the wing
4 Boyata needs to be taken out of the team at the moment
5 Please do not play 3 holding midfielders
6 Zab in defence is a liability
cleavers
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Hes the left back remember said:.....But I do know if we had turned that performance in under Hughes he would have been slaughtered so dont change the rules for one manager to the other.
Don't think anyone has, Hughes got about the same reaction to an indifferent result as Mancini gets now, it might be different names posting the reaction, but its largely the same.
What we all need to do is unite behind a manager at some point, otherwise success will never happen.
ALL managers have bad results, and bad performances, but City supporters over reaction to them is second to none.
Hull held the league leaders midweek, and there is not one team that will just roll over for City (or anyone else).
Mancini will have learned from today hopefully (I kept saying that about Hughes too, but the shite away form continued - as its does still), but he needs to kick some arse of these over paid, over valued footballers in my opinion, just like Hughes should have done, and sadly that's another comparison between the 2, its early days on Mancini but he also looks like he has his "favourites" who will always play.
If (and I said it under Hughes too) Adebayour and Tevez can't play together, then don't play them together, if either one throws a strop then so be it, dump one of them in the summer.
Still at least he spotted why we never won away and got rid of Robhino......
Not playing Nedum or SWP is getting a bit daft.
Boyata switched off for the first, he was not even in the picture, and we were crting out for a right winger today soi he brings on to left wingers.
3 very bad away losses in a row when we have played prem teams, the double header with Stoke could define our season.
Boyata switched off for the first, he was not even in the picture, and we were crting out for a right winger today soi he brings on to left wingers.
3 very bad away losses in a row when we have played prem teams, the double header with Stoke could define our season.
The Fixer said:mackenzie said:Fixer
What is the bloody alternative?
Stick your head up the arse of yet ANOTHER Manager??
No get the right/best fcuking manager out there instead of settling for second best!!
You want Mourinho then.
IMHO that man is not about foundation or longevity.
If we want to win a trophy (any trophy) then fair enough. But he is not, and never will be, our long term future for more than that.
CheethamHillBlue
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TheLegendOfBerti said:It's Mancini's way. Also, would he have the players he has if he had had Hughes's budget last summer? No.
The reliance on these decent homegrown players is a double-edged sword. They have the experience, but are they good enough?
For me there is concrete evidence that Mancini doesn't know the players well enough, their strengths or weaknesses and obviously doesn't trust or value some of them enough. Look at Ireland, restricted, Bellamy out of form as soon as Mancini comes in. Onouha can't get a game, Barry I think is on borrowed time, Sweep doesn't get a game today. Adebayor comes back and is straight in, it shows who Mancini believes in and trusts. It also doesn't help that Ireland and Barry have been out of form all season.
I have no doubt that the likes of Barry, Ireland, SWP, Bellamy would not be here if Mancini had been manager since ADUG took over. They're not his type of players, they are not his way of playing. We'd have bought Zanetti and Cambiasso types of midfielders, Samuel and Chivu types of defenders with the attacking threat coming from the fullbacks of Maxwell and Maicon quality, with the top notch keeper behind. When did Mancini ever play with out and out wingers?
You have to accept that we're in transition, and that it's going to take Mancini time. He is a quality manager as his record shows, but his way is completely different to Hughes, and everything in the club has been made into Hughes way in such a short space of time. It's not ideal, but we just have to scrap and fight into a Champions League spot and give Mancini absolute power in the transfer market in the summer, he has a track record of excellent purchases, and he should be entitled to an entire squad of his own players. Best player on the pitch today? his signing Adam Johnson. The problems are stemming from Hughes signings, the fact is Mancini may not be doing a better job, but the buck stops with the players and Hughes, he bought them. Mancini is just trying to find a way of making them work to the level we need them too so we can score goals without letting 3 in the other way, unfortunately he has to do this mid-season.
I fear Mancini may not get much of a chance. I only hope that the owners aren't as blind as some fans and give him the 3 and a half years, give him the budget in the summer and back him. The shortcomings now are stemming from the previous reign, but we are still in the FA Cup and still in the hunt for the Champions League with games in hand. Yes we slipped up today, but we're a work in progress and as the players and manager build a stronger understanding and Mancini works out what's best for us(which I trust him to do), we will only get better in my opinion.
Sometimes you have to take 1 step back to take 2 forwards.
Good post mate. Constructive without throwing toys out of pram a la Mancini out style. OP take note
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