Kai Havertz

I completely understood what you said, but I refute the idea that it's his defense that makes him good.

He is a world class keeper full stop. There are perhaps some arguments where I believe I may be wrong, but I argue anyways because I believe I may be right (though I may be wrong).

But this, nah, I'm 100% certain he is fucking class. I've seen plenty of him (intermittenly) and read about him to be certain of that.

100% agree. He was absolutely fantastic against Liverpool at Anfield and has been the various times i have seen him on big CL nights. One of the top 5 in the world easy.
 
Genuine question... which players do you actually rate in world football excluding City players?

You don't seem to like Koulibaly, you don't seem to like the idea of signing Messi and now you dont think Oblak is an upgrade on Kepa.

Mbappe (but still needs more development). Koulibaly for the right price but he has had a very shaky season (£60-60m is ok) Messi seems to be a ticking time bomb (nothing to do with ability although age will soon catch up with him)
 
Ok , you don’t rate Oblak but he’s a country mile better than Kepa ffs

Nothing in it between the keepers. Put Kepa in front of Atleti's defence and he will look just as good as Oblak. Chelsea's problem was letting Courtois go.
 
Nothing in it between the keepers. Put Kepa in front of Atleti's defence and he will look just as good as Oblak. Chelsea's problem was letting Courtois go.
His save percentage is around 20% lower than the top keepers in the league (and Oblak’s btw) and the worst in history

Bravo was better than him , let that one sink in

Its no good playing behind a solid defence if you let in half the shots you face ?
 
His save percentage is around 20% lower than the top keepers in the league (and Oblak’s btw) and the worst in history

Bravo was better than him , let that one sink in

Its no good playing behind a solid defence if you let in half the shots you face ?

Pope has a high save percentage in the Premier League but it doesn't make him one of the better keepers
 

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