Kalvin Phillips | Joins City on a 6-year deal

[dadnlad]

It’s was reported that Leeds turned down 55m from West Ham for him on deadline day…

how much of that is agent fees, easy add ons and asthma related

 

[Mad 4 It]

Change your screen name to Mad as Fuck.

Why because I have a different opinion to you. Time will tell, but I am of the opinion that Philips is an average player. How do average players improve another player who is world class

 

[samuelyeboah]

The reality is the vast vast majority of people who don't want him have no idea why the club want him. And more worryingly, have made no effort to think about it beyond crude reasoning like nationality and cover.

I used to ask people who didn't like Rodri why Pep was so insistent on playing him if he was so bad. And not one of them would ever give me a legit answer. They'd always refuse to give Pep any credit and act like Rodri had zero redeeming qualities outside of being Spanish and expensive.

We're seeing the same with Phillips. The guy has been scouted all season and is personally wanted by Pep. But no-one is willing to make the concession that these football experts might have a reason for wanting him. They refuse to see it. How can people be so convinced City are wrong if they have no idea what the logic behind the move is?

The people who think the only reason we might be interested is due to Phillips' nationality are doing a huge discredit to the club.

I think that's unfair. Like I said, they might have very good reasons in their eyes to sign Phillips and they certainly have a proven track record, but you're trying to reverse engineer why Phillips is a good player instead of the other way around, and that concerns me.

People here can't describe why Phillips would be a good signing and why the club should sign him, and instead go the other way and say that the fact that the club wants him IS the reason why he's good and should be signed. That type of circular logic is unconvincing.

 

[L4EV]

I watched Leeds a lot this season and season before. Phillips is a great player. A game that springs to mind is away at spurs this season.

Was definitely better last season when the team as a whole was better.

 

[mccity]

I think that's unfair. Like I said, they might have very good reasons in their eyes to sign Phillips and they certainly have a proven track record, but you're trying to reverse engineer why Phillips is a good player instead of the other way around, and that concerns me.

People here can't describe why Phillips would be a good signing and why the club should sign him, and instead go the other way and say that the fact that the club wants him IS the reason why he's good and should be signed. That type of circular logic is unconvincing.

That's a bit of a strawman that. Which kind of proves my point.

 

[BillyShears]

I mean, yeah, but it's just the other side of the coin, isn't it? People keep posting the same relentlessly positive comments about him and shooting down people who disagree. Does that add anything to the discussion? Then it turns into an utter woman fest.

I get that people like yourself think highly of him and I get why people want our transfer targets to be talked about in glowing terms but I feel like it just gets a bit needlessly tribal.

Context is important. 4 out of the last 5 titles. Best manager in the world. A squad littered with talent. I get that it would be 'boring' if everyone just patted City on the back for everything they do, but we live in a world where the club is repetitively and constantly belittled by those on the outside.

I think it is far more normal and acceptable within that context, for City supporters on a City forum to be slightly over defensive of a potential new signing or even City players who are currently in the squad. Or in fact, defensive about anything City related.

Most of us would just like the club to get credit where it's due. For example, in the transfer market. We're supporters, we're not meant to be dispassionate journalists 'analysing' every cough and spit to accentuate the negatives and ignore the positives.

You have a good day too! I have to turn my internet off to stop being distracted by the City chat!

 

[richards30]

i dont think we do the whole official bid until everything is sorted and then we know what leeds wnat do we? I think things have changed from the good old days where you just bid for a player and kept bidding until it got too high or you came to an agreement?

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Context is important. 4 out of the last 5 titles. Best manager in the world. A squad littered with talent. I get that it would be 'boring' if everyone just patted City on the back for everything they do, but we live in a world where the club is repetitively and constantly belittled by those on the outside.

I think it is far more normal and acceptable within that context, for City supporters on a City forum to be slightly over defensive of a potential new signing or even City players who are currently in the squad. Or in fact, defensive about anything City related.

Most of us would just like the club to get credit where it's due. For example, in the transfer market. We're supporters, we're not meant to be dispassionate journalists 'analysing' every cough and spit to accentuate the negatives and ignore the positives.

You have a good day too! I have to turn my internet off to stop being distracted by the City chat!

All fair points and ones I agree with, on the whole, even if I feel like there's a balance to be found.

 

[samuelyeboah]

That's a bit of a strawman that. Which kind of proves my point.

Its not a strawman, this is very much the most people here have to say in favor of this transfer.

 

[mattyb]

I’ve been reliably informed that personal terms have been agreed