Kalvin Phillips

COAT_OF_ARMS said:
Used to be that way, but I'm pretty sure the Premier League made it mandatory a few years ago, so no clause needed, he won't be eligible to face us. It's still clauses when it's different leagues or in European competition.
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Could we not give Ipswich permission to allow him to play against us [emoji23]
 
M23 Citizen said:
Indeed.

There isn’t a single football club anywhere who gets all their transfers spot on.

Look at us down the years:
Roque Santa Cruz
Jerome Boateng
Owen Hargreaves
Matija Nastasic
Jack Rodwell
Scott Sinclair
Maicon
Eliaquim Mangala
Stevan Jovetic
The way Alvaro Negredo ended up
Wilfred Bony
Fernando
Patrick Roberts
Nolito
Benjamin Mendy
The way Joao Cancelo ended up
Buying Angeliño back and never playing him
What was the point in Ferran Torres, two good performances?
Kalvin Phillips
Mattheus Nunes has done nothing in his entire career to make me think we should have signed him for more than £5m to loan out to Girona, and he was about £55m and sits on our bench unless he comes on and just sits on the floor pretending to be hurt.

…and we’ll always continue to do the same, just like all football clubs.

Yet the amount we get right far outweighs all the shite.
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Really harsh putting Fernando in that list. He did a job for us.

The rest were mostly a waste of time, agreed.
 
M23 Citizen said:
Indeed.

There isn’t a single football club anywhere who gets all their transfers spot on.

Look at us down the years:
Roque Santa Cruz
Jerome Boateng
Owen Hargreaves
Matija Nastasic
Jack Rodwell
Scott Sinclair
Maicon
Eliaquim Mangala
Stevan Jovetic
The way Alvaro Negredo ended up
Wilfred Bony
Fernando
Patrick Roberts
Nolito
Benjamin Mendy
The way Joao Cancelo ended up
Buying Angeliño back and never playing him
What was the point in Ferran Torres, two good performances?
Kalvin Phillips
Mattheus Nunes has done nothing in his entire career to make me think we should have signed him for more than £5m to loan out to Girona, and he was about £55m and sits on our bench unless he comes on and just sits on the floor pretending to be hurt.

…and we’ll always continue to do the same, just like all football clubs.

Yet the amount we get right far outweighs all the shite.
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This list reads like it was made by an uninformed dipper acrapping the barrel trying to make a point about our spending that isn't valid. There's a good handful of names on there that we turned a profit on. What was the point in Torres? About £30 million profit in 18 months.
 
decmancity said:
Using ChatGPT on that list, excluding Cancelo and Phillips as we haven't sold them yet!

Total Profit/Loss:​

  • Total Paid: £282.4 million
  • Total Received: £164 million
  • Overall Loss: £118.4 million
We should be thankful as well that we recovered a fair bit back in transfer fees. Not many clubs ever do that.
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If you really did use ChatGPT, those figures could be wildly wrong. ChatGPT isn't designed to answer questions accurately or truthfully, it's only designed to give an answer that "sounds plausible" to the user.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
The octopus. He was good enough for us for where we were at that time.

I think Nastasic is harsh, too. Each ti their own though.
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Considering at that time him and Fernandinho were both squad players and not exactly the star of the team, and what Fernandinho went on to achieve afterwards under Guardiola suggests to me there was more than a decent player in Fernando, but Pellegrini was at best a bang average manager.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Considering at that time him and Fernandinho were both squad players and not exactly the star of the team, and what Fernandinho went on to achieve afterwards under Guardiola suggests to me there was more than a decent player in Fernando, but Pellegrini was at best a bang average manager.
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Bang average? He won us 3 trophies, including the PL. Not to mention what he’s won elsewhere. That’s not bang average.
 
COAT_OF_ARMS said:
If you really did use ChatGPT, those figures could be wildly wrong. ChatGPT isn't designed to answer questions accurately or truthfully, it's only designed to give an answer that "sounds plausible" to the user.
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Its using Transfermarkt, BBC Sport, and various news articles so its going to be pretty accurate mate. There is no need to inflate any of these considering we still lost nearly 100m lol
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Really harsh putting Fernando in that list. He did a job for us.

The rest were mostly a waste of ti
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M23 Citizen said:
Indeed.

There isn’t a single football club anywhere who gets all their transfers spot on.

Look at us down the years:
Roque Santa Cruz
Jerome Boateng
Owen Hargreaves
Matija Nastasic
Jack Rodwell
Scott Sinclair
Maicon
Eliaquim Mangala
Stevan Jovetic
The way Alvaro Negredo ended up
Wilfred Bony
Fernando
Patrick Roberts
Nolito
Benjamin Mendy
The way Joao Cancelo ended up
Buying Angeliño back and never playing him
What was the point in Ferran Torres, two good performances?
Kalvin Phillips
Mattheus Nunes has done nothing in his entire career to make me think we should have signed him for more than £5m to loan out to Girona, and he was about £55m and sits on our bench unless he comes on and just sits on the floor pretending to be hurt.

…and we’ll always continue to do the same, just like all football clubs.

Yet the amount we get right far outweighs all the shite.
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More than half of the palyers fulfilled the purpose they were bought for.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
....... Pellegrini was at best a bang average manager.
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Absolute nonsense...
You don't know much about Manuel Pellegrini do you?

He was San Lorenzo's manager in Argentina and made them champions despite River and Boca being dominant, plus he also won South America's equivalent of the UEFA Cup, his San Lorenzo team then went on to win another South American trophy, after he'd left to take over at River where he won them the title.
He's a manager known for getting the best from his players as Riquelme Diego Forlan Diego Godin Marcos Senna Santi Cazorla and Isco plus many more would attest to, without Pellegrini not a single one of those players would've become the players that they did he gave them direction in their career.
He went to Spain and turned Villarreal into what they're now they aren't a powerhouse but still a legitimate threat to UCL places, he's the reason they became so well known and so well run why they started playing a very good brand of football, that team he built got so unlucky to face a very good Arsenal team in the UCL semis and quarters, without him ever being their manager they don't even get to the final to beat the rags in that Europa League final under Emery.

They'd likely never have got close to European football without Pellegrini ever being in charge, Riquelme would've likely flopped in Europe and gone back home a lot sooner than he did he knew exactly how to get the best out of him.
As for Fernando he was nowt too special we though he was going to be what Fernandinho became, sadly he way out of his depth with the pace of the Prem while at City, he tried but wasn't quite good enough for us.
Pellegrini however did turn Marcos Senna from a very average player into a world class defensive midfielder, then Senna was probably Spain's most important player defensively in Euro 2008 after he switched nationalities.

Pellegrini took over a City team without any squad harmony after Mancini unfortunately lost the dressing room, the dressing room was disjointed but he still came in and we immediately scored more goals than anyone before his team in that Premier League season.
He has always been a very good manager who gets the best out of his players and gets his side's playing good positive football, even after Pep arrived it took him until his second season to get the side how he wanted it... so I'd say it's extremely unfair to call Pellers just a bang average manager, it's not just a complete and utter lie it's damn right disrespectful.

He got Malaga into the Champions League and was nearly in the semi final until two added time goals saw them knocked out, at Real Madrid he made them play beautiful football that's despite making it clear he was angry at the sale of Robben and Sneijder, who he saw as the two most important cogs in his team after his unveiling but after his arrival, both of them were sold within weeks and Sneijder that season helped Inter win the UCL.
Real got the second most points total ever at that time by a La Liga team without those two players that's despite finishing runners up to the greatest Barcelona team ever, this was his only season in charge and there was a player revolt at Real lead by Raul (it lead to Raul being released later on) when he got sacked, it was the best football Real Madrid had played in years their fans were very unhappy at the time.

Even at Real Betis a team who were seen as strong candidates for relegation not long before his arrival, he's won a Spanish Cup and challenged for UCL places but you think he's bang average?
Truth is just like Unai Emery he's a top drawer and very underrated manager who doesn't get the credit he deserves, not even by some our own spoilt fans it seems but he'd still have made De Bruyne the best midfielder in the world and improved many others.

He's obviously no Pep but nobody is and I reckon Pep being himself has won us an extra 3-4 Prem titles, this isn't telling on how bang average Manuel Pellegrini is though it's more telling on how elite Pep is, people who belittle just how good a manager Pellegrini was/is need to give their head a good and proper shake.
 
Kinkladze's crazy skills said:
Absolute nonsense...
You don't know much about Manuel Pellegrini do you?

He was San Lorenzo's manager in Argentina and made them champions despite River and Boca being dominant, plus he also won South America's equivalent of the UEFA Cup, his San Lorenzo team then went on to win another South American trophy, after he'd left to take over at River where he won them the title.
He's a manager known for getting the best from his players as Riquelme Diego Forlan Diego Godin Marcos Senna Santi Cazorla and Isco plus many more would attest to, without Pellegrini not a single one of those players would've become the players that they did he gave them direction in their career.
He went to Spain and turned Villarreal into what they're now they aren't a powerhouse but still a legitimate threat to UCL places, he's the reason they became so well known and so well run why they started playing a very good brand of football, that team he built got so unlucky to face a very good Arsenal team in the UCL semis and quarters, without him ever being their manager they don't even get to the final to beat the rags in that Europa League final under Emery.

They'd likely never have got close to European football without Pellegrini ever being in charge, Riquelme would've likely flopped in Europe and gone back home a lot sooner than he did he knew exactly how to get the best out of him.
As for Fernando he was nowt too special we though he was going to be what Fernandinho became, sadly he way out of his depth with the pace of the Prem while at City, he tried but wasn't quite good enough for us.
Pellegrini however did turn Marcos Senna from a very average player into a world class defensive midfielder, then Senna was probably Spain's most important player defensively in Euro 2008 after he switched nationalities.

Pellegrini took over a City team without any squad harmony after Mancini unfortunately lost the dressing room, the dressing room was disjointed but he still came in and we immediately scored more goals than anyone before his team in that Premier League season.
He has always been a very good manager who gets the best out of his players and gets his side's playing good positive football, even after Pep arrived it took him until his second season to get the side how he wanted it... so I'd say it's extremely unfair to call Pellers just a bang average manager, it's not just a complete and utter lie it's damn right disrespectful.

He got Malaga into the Champions League and was nearly in the semi final until two added time goals saw them knocked out, at Real Madrid he made them play beautiful football that's despite making it clear he was angry at the sale of Robben and Sneijder, who he saw as the two most important cogs in his team after his unveiling but after his arrival, both of them were sold within weeks and Sneijder that season helped Inter win the UCL.
Real got the second most points total ever at that time by a La Liga team without those two players that's despite finishing runners up to the greatest Barcelona team ever, this was his only season in charge and there was a player revolt at Real lead by Raul (it lead to Raul being released later on) when he got sacked, it was the best football Real Madrid had played in years their fans were very unhappy at the time.

Even at Real Betis a team who were seen as strong candidates for relegation not long before his arrival, he's won a Spanish Cup and challenged for UCL places but you think he's bang average?
Truth is just like Unai Emery he's a top drawer and very underrated manager who doesn't get the credit he deserves, not even by some our own spoilt fans it seems but he'd still have made De Bruyne the best midfielder in the world and improved many others.

He's obviously no Pep but nobody is and I reckon Pep being himself has won us an extra 3-4 Prem titles, this isn't telling on how bang average Manuel Pellegrini is though it's more telling on how elite Pep is, people who belittle just how good a manager Pellegrini was/is need to give their head a good and proper shake.
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Hi Manuel. Thanks for sharing the first draft of your autobiography with us but it could do with an edit.
 
Kinkladze's crazy skills said:
Absolute nonsense...
You don't know much about Manuel Pellegrini do you?

He was San Lorenzo's manager in Argentina and made them champions despite River and Boca being dominant, plus he also won South America's equivalent of the UEFA Cup, his San Lorenzo team then went on to win another South American trophy, after he'd left to take over at River where he won them the title.
He's a manager known for getting the best from his players as Riquelme Diego Forlan Diego Godin Marcos Senna Santi Cazorla and Isco plus many more would attest to, without Pellegrini not a single one of those players would've become the players that they did he gave them direction in their career.
He went to Spain and turned Villarreal into what they're now they aren't a powerhouse but still a legitimate threat to UCL places, he's the reason they became so well known and so well run why they started playing a very good brand of football, that team he built got so unlucky to face a very good Arsenal team in the UCL semis and quarters, without him ever being their manager they don't even get to the final to beat the rags in that Europa League final under Emery.

They'd likely never have got close to European football without Pellegrini ever being in charge, Riquelme would've likely flopped in Europe and gone back home a lot sooner than he did he knew exactly how to get the best out of him.
As for Fernando he was nowt too special we though he was going to be what Fernandinho became, sadly he way out of his depth with the pace of the Prem while at City, he tried but wasn't quite good enough for us.
Pellegrini however did turn Marcos Senna from a very average player into a world class defensive midfielder, then Senna was probably Spain's most important player defensively in Euro 2008 after he switched nationalities.

Pellegrini took over a City team without any squad harmony after Mancini unfortunately lost the dressing room, the dressing room was disjointed but he still came in and we immediately scored more goals than anyone before his team in that Premier League season.
He has always been a very good manager who gets the best out of his players and gets his side's playing good positive football, even after Pep arrived it took him until his second season to get the side how he wanted it... so I'd say it's extremely unfair to call Pellers just a bang average manager, it's not just a complete and utter lie it's damn right disrespectful.

He got Malaga into the Champions League and was nearly in the semi final until two added time goals saw them knocked out, at Real Madrid he made them play beautiful football that's despite making it clear he was angry at the sale of Robben and Sneijder, who he saw as the two most important cogs in his team after his unveiling but after his arrival, both of them were sold within weeks and Sneijder that season helped Inter win the UCL.
Real got the second most points total ever at that time by a La Liga team without those two players that's despite finishing runners up to the greatest Barcelona team ever, this was his only season in charge and there was a player revolt at Real lead by Raul (it lead to Raul being released later on) when he got sacked, it was the best football Real Madrid had played in years their fans were very unhappy at the time.

Even at Real Betis a team who were seen as strong candidates for relegation not long before his arrival, he's won a Spanish Cup and challenged for UCL places but you think he's bang average?
Truth is just like Unai Emery he's a top drawer and very underrated manager who doesn't get the credit he deserves, not even by some our own spoilt fans it seems but he'd still have made De Bruyne the best midfielder in the world and improved many others.

He's obviously no Pep but nobody is and I reckon Pep being himself has won us an extra 3-4 Prem titles, this isn't telling on how bang average Manuel Pellegrini is though it's more telling on how elite Pep is, people who belittle just how good a manager Pellegrini was/is need to give their head a good and proper shake.
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Yeah, yeah.....but apart from some of those achievements he's fucking bang average.
 
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