Kalvin Phillips

[Crooked_rain]

FFS! His confidence must be shattered. I hope he has time to get over his first two games, settle & regain his form & fitness.

In the Premier League matches thread I said before he even got on the pitch that putting him on the bench today was probably a bad idea because they started him during the week and he made a fuck up and they conceded from it and then he got dropped to the bench today.

I don't think that's helped in terms of confidence especially. I don't think its good man management to start him in his first game available and then drop him in the second when he has been on the bench for 18 months.

Should've done it the other way around, sub first then start. Otherwise it now looks like he got dropped because of a mistake during the week and that's added pressure for today coming off the bench.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

If the West Ham loan doesn't work, and it's hardly been an auspicious start, then a permanent move anywhere in the summer will be extremely unlikely. We then have four more years on his contract to manage....gulp

It looks like that all the stars came together when Bielsa was Leeds manager and he's had one decent season. I can't recall anything about him before then and obviously he's done fuck all since.

 

[Dribble]

In the Premier League matches thread I said before he even got on the pitch that putting him on the bench today was probably a bad idea because they started him during the week and he made a fuck up and they conceded from it and then he got dropped to the bench today.

I don't think that's helped in terms of confidence especially. I don't think its good man management to start him in his first game available and then drop him in the second when he has been on the bench for 18 months.

Should've done it the other way around, sub first then start. Otherwise it now looks like he got dropped because of a mistake during the week and that's added pressure for today coming off the bench.

Conversely, starting him in his first match might have been seen as a vote of confidence.

To be fair too, the ball he lost was a weak pass, with two players bearing down on him. He's not a Rodri, Foden or Bernardo type who can wriggle out of tight spots.

Fingers crossed he's not too crushed & can recover quickly & prove himself the footballer who was England's player of the tournament in the Euro's.

 

[Paul1970]

Wondering if he might end up back at Leeds if they come up.

They have glen kanara who is doing a better job than Kalvin did so that ship has sailed .

 

[RayCTID]

Not been the greatest of starts at West Ham. Got to take a loss on this one.

 

[TheBlueCat]

We have to be realistic. He was crap when we bought him and obviously he hasn’t improved. We have taken a bath with him and we will have to accept it. I don’t understand how we got it so wrong when he was clearly never at our level these days but it happened. I’m hoping we’ve learned from it. I doubt we will move him for cash but we can only hope.

 

[pudge]

Played two games today.

His second match for West Ham and his last

 

[Rammy Blue]

I did say he’s fucking wank.

 

[bluesmith]

If the West Ham loan doesn't work, and it's hardly been an auspicious start, then a permanent move anywhere in the summer will be extremely unlikely. We then have four more years on his contract to manage....gulp

It looks like that all the stars came together when Bielsa was Leeds manager and he's had one decent season. I can't recall anything about him before then and obviously he's done fuck all since.

He had 3 good years at Leeds 1 in the championship and 2 in the Premier league, pretty sure he was called up to the England squad before he'd played a game in the Premier league.

 

[The First Earl]

We have to be realistic. He was crap when we bought him and obviously he hasn’t improved. We have taken a bath with him and we will have to accept it. I don’t understand how we got it so wrong when he was clearly never at our level these days but it happened. I’m hoping we’ve learned from it. I doubt we will move him for cash but we can only hope.

With respect, he wasn’t crap, and isn’t crap.
Fair enough, he may not have been at the level you expect, and no doubt we’ll lose money on him, but I’ve seen far worse than him playing for City.
His confidence is shot and every mistake is being highlighted. It doesn’t mean he cannot recover and play well again for another team.