Kamala Harris

[TinFoilHat]

No. Cos Trump is a fascist ****.
It would appear J Lo has also worked that out.

Despite being born in the USA Trump would send her and everyone else to Puerto Rico.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Despite being born in the USA Trump would send her and everyone else to Puerto Rico.

Did I hear that Puerto Rico is a island of garbage?

No wonder he wants to send them all back.

 

[Frank the Yank]

Are you planning to vote for Trump?

And, if so, do you believe him having a second term would help you and your family? What about other people’s families?

Secret ballot.

I really don’t think a Trump second term would either help or hurt my family. If Harris gets in and passes a tax on unrealized gains, then yes that can hurt me financially. That would definitely hurt some members of my family who have more money than I do. Having said that they are hard core Democrats.

I don’t live my life relying on other people. I don’t enjoy having other people wielding power/ control over my destiny.

Having said that real wages in Trumps four years rose 8.2%. Under this administration they have risen 1%-US govt stats. Factor in that inflation has been raging the past four years compared to the previous four.

Add to this I haven’t received a raise in four years. The evil corporation that I work for a big Harris/Walz supporters. I know this to be true not only seeing the actions of my company but I know people VERY high up and this is definitely true.

 

[Frank the Yank]

Secret ballot.

I really don’t think a Trump second term would either help or hurt my family. If Harris gets in and passes a tax on unrealized gains, then yes that can hurt me financially. That would definitely hurt some members of my family who have more money than I do. Having said that they are hard core Democrats.

I don’t live my life relying on other people. I don’t enjoy having other people wielding power/ control over my destiny.

Having said that real wages in Trumps four years rose 8.2%. Under this administration they have risen 1%-US govt stats. Factor in that inflation has been raging the past four years compared to the previous four.

Add to this I haven’t received a raise in four years. The evil corporation that I work for a big Harris/Walz supporters. I know this to be true not only seeing the actions of my company but I know people VERY high up and this is definitely true.

 

[Frank the Yank]

Tried to upload something. Don’t know if it worked. I speak multiple languages but te h aint one of them..

 

[halfcenturyup]

The power of the army is a key factor.

True, but at least the army pledge allegiance to the monarch as you would expect, which is just as well as the police pledge allegiance to whoever pays them the most.

Anyway, as I said, wrong thread.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Secret ballot.

I really don’t think a Trump second term would either help or hurt my family. If Harris gets in and passes a tax on unrealized gains, then yes that can hurt me financially. That would definitely hurt some members of my family who have more money than I do. Having said that they are hard core Democrats.

I don’t live my life relying on other people. I don’t enjoy having other people wielding power/ control over my destiny.

Having said that real wages in Trumps four years rose 8.2%. Under this administration they have risen 1%-US govt stats. Factor in that inflation has been raging the past four years compared to the previous four.

Add to this I haven’t received a raise in four years. The evil corporation that I work for a big Harris/Walz supporters. I know this to be true not only seeing the actions of my company but I know people VERY high up and this is definitely true.

I appreciate the earnest response (it rarely happens on here these days).

I disagree with some of your points, especially those related to the economy and economic policy (as that is my field of study and expertise), but I am not sure there is much to be gained by debating them at this time.

I will just say that I don’t think a Harris presidency would be perfect or make absolutely everyone’s life better.

But I do think her presidency would be substantially more beneficial to not only most people in the US, but for the country in general, compared to Trump. And I do not think one can exaggerate how big an ‘utilitarianism gap’ I believe there is between Harris and Trump.

And as father of a newly minted American who will have to directly or indirectly deal with the direction the US takes over the next few decades as he grows to be an adult—one that I will very likely not be around to guide and support through that journey—what happens over the next week (and months, unfortunately) are very important to me. Especially given his mother will soon be his sole caregiver (she really nearly is already) and that will be made even more difficult if MAGA is allowed to gain control of the Presidency in addition to the Judiciary (and, I shudder to say, Congress) and are able to continue to strip rights away from women. And if he ends up being neurodivergent like me, and/or his gender or sexuality conflicts with what MAGA consider acceptable norms (which is essentially white straight neuroconforming cisgender male), his rights will also likely be limited, as well.

Fortunately, they have an escape route to several other countries due to our multi-citizenship status. But that requires a lot of upheaval, effort, money, and risk in of itself. So being forced in to that sort of action is pretty destructive, and most Americans will not have that option.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

No, not joking. By that metric, every country on earth was created by empire. How far back should we go to create the starting point?

The US literally still has overseas territories. What are they if not a product of a colonial past? And I don't mean the colonialism of creating the United States in the first place, I mean the colonialism that they engaged in once they became an established world power. Or are we to pretend that Guam has always had close ties to a territory nearly 7,000 miles away? And perhaps ask the people of the Philippines if the US has a colonial history. American Samoa? The US Virgin Islands? Puerto Rico? Hawaii? That's before we mention the various proxy wars and actual US invasions that have happened throughout history to ensure that people sympathetic to the US are ruling various territories. It's textbook colonialism.

Britain didn't rule India by just going over with an army and conquering it, they spent years first trading with them, building up armies to 'protect their trading routes' against colonial rivals, backing rulers who were friendly to the British, and eventually using military might to overthrow rulers who'd had enough of the British interfering in their country. Remind you of anyone else?

 

[west didsblue]

Secret ballot.

I really don’t think a Trump second term would either help or hurt my family. If Harris gets in and passes a tax on unrealized gains, then yes that can hurt me financially. That would definitely hurt some members of my family who have more money than I do. Having said that they are hard core Democrats.

I don’t live my life relying on other people. I don’t enjoy having other people wielding power/ control over my destiny.

Having said that real wages in Trumps four years rose 8.2%. Under this administration they have risen 1%-US govt stats. Factor in that inflation has been raging the past four years compared to the previous four.

Add to this I haven’t received a raise in four years. The evil corporation that I work for a big Harris/Walz supporters. I know this to be true not only seeing the actions of my company but I know people VERY high up and this is definitely true.

High inflation in the last 4 years was a consequence of the world economy taking a huge hit during 2020 and 2021. The recovery from Covid has fuelled inflation, which has been worse in countries that were hit hardest by Covid. Due to the Trump administration’s shambolic handling of the pandemic during 2020, US inflation was consequently higher in the aftermath. The current administration has done well to get it back under control and at the same time enable the economy to grow to reinforce its place as the world’s strongest economy by far. Electing Trump would put all this at risk because his economic policies and ideas are totally incoherent. Plenty of more important reasons not to vote for Trump that have already been widely discussed.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The US literally still has overseas territories. What are they if not a product of a colonial past? And I don't mean the colonialism of creating the United States in the first place, I mean the colonialism that they engaged in once they became an established world power. Or are we to pretend that Guam has always had close ties to a territory nearly 7,000 miles away? And perhaps ask the people of the Philippines if the US has a colonial history. American Samoa? The US Virgin Islands? Puerto Rico? Hawaii? That's before we mention the various proxy wars and actual US invasions that have happened throughout history to ensure that people sympathetic to the US are ruling various territories. It's textbook colonialism.

Britain didn't rule India by just going over with an army and conquering it, they spent years first trading with them, building up armies to 'protect their trading routes' against colonial rivals, backing rulers who were friendly to the British, and eventually using military might to overthrow rulers who'd had enough of the British interfering in their country. Remind you of anyone else?

@ChicagoBlue This is one of those topics you and I disagree on, as my view very much aligns with IWS’s take above.

The US was/is as much a colonial power as Britain or Spain, it just came along later (ironically as a direct product of colonialism) and is currently in a different phase of power. I can say that with authority being from, and having lived and studied history and economics (the driving force behind most all colonialism that has ever taken place), in all three nations.

I think it is important to acknowledge that, as well, because the only way to pull back from it is to accept that it is true and then earnestly assess what the US has done and how to make things right moving forward.