Karim Rekik

[MC ID]

Ha! owned

In any case this is a forum and all opinions (especially when backed up like NKs) are valid, people are welcome to disagree with those opinions like, kinda the point ain't it. I mean, I guess we could give a go at being Rawk? Ban negative opinions and get some good double think going.

Anyway, dramatic reconstruction:

 

[EllisMCFC]

Sheesh, someone ban this Elliswum character, and Neville Kneville from any youth centre-half threads so his obsessions don't destroy the threads.

Yeah that's it, stop people from discussing players honestly so that wankers like you can just read the bits you prefer rather than actually assessing a player & deciding what's good or bad about him.

What's your contribution to the thread been ?

Answer: ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL.

Have you posted ANYTHING god or bad about the player, that is any use to anybody, at any time ? Fucking NO.

Would there be any fucking point in having a thread about any player if shithouses like you were allowed to police it ? Answer NO.

If you have an opinion on the player, fucking tell everyone what you think & why.

Insted you contribute nothing, & try to get others banned, just FUCK OFF and mind your own fucking business you useless bag of shite.

Thanks for sticking up for me. Have to say Thanks and your opinion was vaild and had a good point to it. I mean look at his username "morganporny" wonder who he supports the rags probally.

 

[spinzer]

Youre a good,if outspoken,contributor Nev.I agree with you regarding opinion,too many get on their high horse when they decide theirs hold more water.

Keep up the good work but don't get yourself in mither!

Cheers for the nice words.

Like I say, I don't mind if people want to rip my opinions to bits & call me whatever they like on that, but questioning my right to post an opinion or making out I have some kind of vendetta going on. I can't be doing with it.

If we look at our current young centre backs, including Nastasic, then we look at Mangala's debut. There's a bit of a fucking difference !

That's the level we should be aiming for our central defenders to be at, in a few years time, not Johnny Evans. These kids really have to go some if they are to reach the level we are aiming for. That's the reality.

Wind down mate. In all honesty tho, Nastasic was actually tested constantly and at a different level whereas Mangala had fuck all to do 80% of the game, but when he was tested, indeed he was impressive!

 

[Neville Kneville]

Youre a good,if outspoken,contributor Nev.I agree with you regarding opinion,too many get on their high horse when they decide theirs hold more water.

Keep up the good work but don't get yourself in mither!

Cheers for the nice words.

Like I say, I don't mind if people want to rip my opinions to bits & call me whatever they like on that, but questioning my right to post an opinion or making out I have some kind of vendetta going on. I can't be doing with it.

If we look at our current young centre backs, including Nastasic, then we look at Mangala's debut. There's a bit of a fucking difference !

That's the level we should be aiming for our central defenders to be at, in a few years time, not Johnny Evans. These kids really have to go some if they are to reach the level we are aiming for. That's the reality.

Wind down mate. In all honesty tho, Nastasic was actually tested constantly and at a different level whereas Mangala had fuck all to do 80% of the game, but when he was tested, indeed he was impressive!

Mangala had plenty to do & did it. But he did it quicker & harder & made it look much easier than it was and didn't avoid covering for others or going for balls he might not win, like Nastasic has done in almost every game he's played. Anyone can look comfortable if they don't actually do anything.

I actually think Mangala could have done better for their goal, but it was an acceptable level of failure rather than incompetence or lack of ability. He just got caught slightly.

As for winding down. I haven't got out of first gear.

 

[spinzer]

Cheers for the nice words.

Like I say, I don't mind if people want to rip my opinions to bits & call me whatever they like on that, but questioning my right to post an opinion or making out I have some kind of vendetta going on. I can't be doing with it.

If we look at our current young centre backs, including Nastasic, then we look at Mangala's debut. There's a bit of a fucking difference !

That's the level we should be aiming for our central defenders to be at, in a few years time, not Johnny Evans. These kids really have to go some if they are to reach the level we are aiming for. That's the reality.

Wind down mate. In all honesty tho, Nastasic was actually tested constantly and at a different level whereas Mangala had fuck all to do 80% of the game, but when he was tested, indeed he was impressive!

Mangala had plenty to do & did it. But he did it quicker & harder & made it look much easier than it was and didn't avoid covering for others or going for balls he might not win, like Nastasic has done in almost every game he's played. Anyone can look comfortable if they don't actually do anything.

I actually think Mangala could have done better for their goal, but it was an acceptable level of failure rather than incompetence or lack of ability. He just got caught slightly.

As for winding down. I haven't got out of first gear.

Agree with the statement about he was slightly caught out. I'd like to take a look at the situation where Costa hit the sidebar aswell to look into what happend' there. But nonetheless it looks like we have a very very solid CB pairing, a pairing which could go down as one of the strongest CB pairings for a very long time, but it's still very early, and tbf Mangala had a quite shitty season for Porto. Let's just hope that it was because his mindset was set on this move! I'm looking forward to the day that we actually get some good set pieces to see how he does offensively in the air, in the BPL, because he was such a threat offensively for porto in set pieces! I'm still wondering why Kolarov isn't taking the corner kicks for example, i dont think Silva is the best man for the task, even tho i have him in so high regard.

 

[LoveCity]

Watching him today and he was culpable for Heerenveen's goal. Over-committing, getting skinned and leaving the defence exposed for Heerenveen to score.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Seen the full Moscow game now & it was the best I've seen Rekik play for a long time, but unfortunately still not close to what we require.

On the ground he was pretty solid & got in some strong challenges, & was excellent on the ball. Reckless once or twice giving away two dangerous free kicks but he's only a kid & it's understandable he'll get one or two wrong if he's getting stuck in, which he was, & was quite aggressive, which is what I've been asking for. Had he been playing in our team, I think he would have done ok on the deck with that performance.

In the air though, he was really caught out, ok once was vs Samba (whos armpit was above Rekik's head when they both jumped) but another occasion a geezer of his size just left him yards off it & got a free header. He was fine when not challenged, but he seems to struggle with the flight of the ball & the run of an opponent, as well as not jumping especially well. Sometimes just a long high ball seenms to phase him & he kind of walks under it.

No big fuckups on the ground though, decent performance there.

(How PSV lost, is beyond explanation. Could have scored 6)

 

[SlimShadyRus]

Seen the full Moscow game now & it was the best I've seen Rekik play for a long time, but unfortunately still not close to what we require.

On the ground he was pretty solid & got in some strong challenges, & was excellent on the ball. Reckless once or twice giving away two dangerous free kicks but he's only a kid & it's understandable he'll get one or two wrong if he's getting stuck in, which he was, & was quite aggressive, which is what I've been asking for. Had he been playing in our team, I think he would have done ok on the deck with that performance.

In the air though, he was really caught out, ok once was vs Samba (whos armpit was above Rekik's head when they both jumped) but another occasion a geezer of his size just left him yards off it & got a free header. He was fine when not challenged, but he seems to struggle with the flight of the ball & the run of an opponent, as well as not jumping especially well. Sometimes just a long high ball seenms to phase him & he kind of walks under it.

No big fuckups on the ground though, decent performance there.

(How PSV lost, is beyond explanation. Could have scored 6)

Oh shite! Haven't known PSV was playing in Moscow yesterday... I'd go to khimki and watch Rekik then...

 

[BigOscar]

Seems to be PSV's only defender who is able to avoid getting sent off at the moment. Every week a different player seems to be sent off. Great experience for him to have to cope with the adversity and he seems to be dealing with it well. Another clean sheet today, PSV move 4 points clear at the top, hard to ask for a much better loan. If they can continue this form and give him the experience of a title run in, then there is little else he can gain from the Eredivise.

 

[Neville Kneville]

If he can learn to cope under adversity, & find a way of stopping players by whatever means possible, then that's what he would need to become a proper defender. Not seen the last few games but they haven't been conceding goals. In previous games I've watched, I would back QPR to put 8 past them, but in recent times they have stopped all that, & wheras Dutch defences are usually shite, some of the attackers are pretty good.

If he's keeping regular clean sheets, then he's doing something right. Be interesting to have another look at him.

 

[SCF08]

Seems to be PSV's only defender who is able to avoid getting sent off at the moment. Every week a different player seems to be sent off. Great experience for him to have to cope with the adversity and he seems to be dealing with it well. Another clean sheet today, PSV move 4 points clear at the top, hard to ask for a much better loan. If they can continue this form and give him the experience of a title run in, then there is little else he can gain from the Eredivise.

PSV is the perfect loan move for him but after nearly 1 1/2 seasons you can clearly see that he's not improving a lot.

He lacks on too many fronts to be considered a City squad player.

Being in first position with PSV doesn't mean too much. PSV have by far the best squad in the Eredivisie and their wingers are incredible. Midfield is also very very strong with Wijnaldum, Maher and Guardado.

Rekik manages well against weaker opposition but always makes mistakes in the bigger games. The 2 Feyenoord central defenders are a lot stronger at the moment. The big brother of Rodney Kongolo (City player) is developing into a top quality defender at Feyenoord. He has the height, strength and pace to be something special. He just needs to gain another 10/15kg's and experience to cope at a higher level.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Seems to be PSV's only defender who is able to avoid getting sent off at the moment. Every week a different player seems to be sent off. Great experience for him to have to cope with the adversity and he seems to be dealing with it well. Another clean sheet today, PSV move 4 points clear at the top, hard to ask for a much better loan. If they can continue this form and give him the experience of a title run in, then there is little else he can gain from the Eredivise.

PSV is the perfect loan move for him but after nearly 1 1/2 seasons you can clearly see that he's not improving a lot.

He lacks on too many fronts to be considered a City squad player.

Being in first position with PSV doesn't mean too much. PSV have by far the best squad in the Eredivisie and their wingers are incredible. Midfield is also very very strong with Wijnaldum, Maher and Guardado.

Rekik manages well against weaker opposition but always makes mistakes in the bigger games. The 2 Feyenoord central defenders are a lot stronger at the moment. The big brother of Rodney Kongolo (City player) is developing into a top quality defender at Feyenoord. He has the height, strength and pace to be something special. He just needs to gain another 10/15kg's and experience to cope at a higher level.

Just watched a recording of some of the game v Den Haag & although PSV were down to 10, the oppo were so poor that neither him nor Bruma hardly had to do anything at all, just pick up misplaced passes or head away long humps, unchallenged. Then PSV scored.

Perhaps it got tougher for the defenders later, I don't know, I tried to stick it out, but I couldn't. It was just a piss poor standard of football.

PSV play some good stuff on the counter at times though, tbf. Not enough to make up for the lack of quality of the overall game though. Awful.

 

[salfordpaul]

Sadly but go far as far back on this thread as much as you want. He will not ever play for us. Not good enough, big enough, quick enough.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Sadly but go far as far back on this thread as much as you want. He will not ever play for us. Not good enough, big enough, quick enough.

You may be right, but he could have played anywhere in our back 4 v Moscow & would have improved it. We were worse than the Dutch league standard.

 

[SCF08]

Sadly but go far as far back on this thread as much as you want. He will not ever play for us. Not good enough, big enough, quick enough.

You may be right, but he could have played anywhere in our back 4 v Moscow & would have improved it. We were worse than the Dutch league standard.

Rekik wasn't great as well last night. PSV still managed to beat Panathinaikos 2-3 in Greece but Rekik lost Mladen Petric completely for the 2-1 and just didn't respond quick enough.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6AHw-86Cb4[/video]

 

[BigOscar]

I watched part of that game and there is no way you can blame him for that goal, it was a ridiculous goal that defied all logic. A long ball, a perfectly cushioned header to the only place on the pitch that it could of found that player, who first time ridiculously volleys it in from outside the box, while under pretty decent pressure. You cannot prevent stuff like that happening, it's just feakish. (although having someone even in the vicinity of the guy who headed it on might have helped)

Fantastic goal though, pretty much a Tony Pullis wet dream. 3 touches from 3 players to get the ball into the net from inside your own half, within about 5 seconds. Doesn't get much more direct than that.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I watched part of that game and there is no way you can blame him for that goal, it was a ridiculous goal that defied all logic. A long ball, a perfectly cushioned header to the only place on the pitch that it could of found that player, who first time ridiculously volleys it in from outside the box, while under pretty decent pressure. You cannot prevent stuff like that happening, it's just feakish. (although having someone even in the vicinity of the guy who headed it on might have helped)

Fantastic goal though, pretty much a Tony Pullis wet dream. 3 touches from 3 players to get the ball into the net from inside your own half, within about 5 seconds. Doesn't get much more direct than that.

Defied all logic ? It's a bog standard lump down the park, Sunday League goal & the cb is supposed to defend it.

I'm glad the video is posted there rather than having to rely on your description of it. It's a Div 3 goal the likes of which people down there defend every game. Bog standard, dead easy to stop. All the defending is awful by all 3.

The scorer isn't under any pressure at all, because the ball has gone before Rekik arrives. You can't be under pressure AFTER the ball has gone. The idea is to get there first. Rekik can see the whole thing from his position & his reaction to it is shocking.

Rekik is too slow covering, it's terrible, & if it was a PL game, Carragher & Neville would be highlighting it as being bobbins & wondering what the fuck he thinks he's doing.

If you genuinely don't know that is awful defending, then you really don't know what defenders are supposed to do. I tend to believe you know exactly how bad it is, but don't want to take in what you are actually looking at.

Defending right in keeping with the shite City served up on Wed, as SCF08 rightly says.

 

[BigOscar]

I watched part of that game and there is no way you can blame him for that goal, it was a ridiculous goal that defied all logic. A long ball, a perfectly cushioned header to the only place on the pitch that it could of found that player, who first time ridiculously volleys it in from outside the box, while under pretty decent pressure. You cannot prevent stuff like that happening, it's just feakish. (although having someone even in the vicinity of the guy who headed it on might have helped)

Fantastic goal though, pretty much a Tony Pullis wet dream. 3 touches from 3 players to get the ball into the net from inside your own half, within about 5 seconds. Doesn't get much more direct than that.

Defied all logic ? It's a bog standard lump down the park, Sunday League goal & the cb is supposed to defend it.

I'm glad the video is posted there rather than having to rely on your description of it. It's a Div 3 goal the likes of which people down there defend every game. Bog standard, dead easy to stop. All the defending is awful by all 3.

The scorer isn't under any pressure at all, because the ball has gone before Rekik arrives. You can't be under pressure AFTER the ball has gone. The idea is to get there first. Rekik can see the whole thing from his position & his reaction to it is shocking.

Rekik is too slow covering, it's terrible, & if it was a PL game, Carragher & Neville would be highlighting it as being bobbins & wondering what the fuck he thinks he's doing.

If you genuinely don't know that is awful defending, then you really don't know what defenders are supposed to do. I tend to believe you know exactly how bad it is, but don't want to take in what you are actually looking at.

Defending right in keeping with the shite City served up on Wed, as SCF08 rightly says.

Why am I not surprised you think it's terrible by Rekik? If every time a striker had time to hit the ball first time on the volley from 30 yards it was "terrible defending", then I think you'll find terrible defending on pretty much every attack in every game. Not sure how many 3rd division games you watch if you think players are volleying it in first time from that distance all the time. Had the lad been headed in, clear through on goal, then I might be inclined to agree, but he wasn't, he was given half a yard, 30 yards out.

He's over to the left of the striker as that's where the ball started, the ball gets heaved over to the other side of the pitch and headed back across from right to left, so the attacker is always going to be first to the ball coming from that side. He had a perfectly reasonable amount of pressure on him, so he had no option but to swing leg at it at the very first opportunity, and it flew in the net. Unless you are honestly suggesting that no attacking player should ever be able to first to a flick on header, anywhere on the ptich, it's hard to see what you are expecting from your defenders.

But obviously, I have no idea why I'm even bothering defending Rekik to you, as I may as well be talking to a brick wall. Seeming as I've already typed it, I may as well hit post, but I'm not going to respond to your inevitable response, as it would be as big a waste of my time as posting this was.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I watched part of that game and there is no way you can blame him for that goal, it was a ridiculous goal that defied all logic. A long ball, a perfectly cushioned header to the only place on the pitch that it could of found that player, who first time ridiculously volleys it in from outside the box, while under pretty decent pressure. You cannot prevent stuff like that happening, it's just feakish. (although having someone even in the vicinity of the guy who headed it on might have helped)

Fantastic goal though, pretty much a Tony Pullis wet dream. 3 touches from 3 players to get the ball into the net from inside your own half, within about 5 seconds. Doesn't get much more direct than that.

Defied all logic ? It's a bog standard lump down the park, Sunday League goal & the cb is supposed to defend it.

I'm glad the video is posted there rather than having to rely on your description of it. It's a Div 3 goal the likes of which people down there defend every game. Bog standard, dead easy to stop. All the defending is awful by all 3.

The scorer isn't under any pressure at all, because the ball has gone before Rekik arrives. You can't be under pressure AFTER the ball has gone. The idea is to get there first. Rekik can see the whole thing from his position & his reaction to it is shocking.

Rekik is too slow covering, it's terrible, & if it was a PL game, Carragher & Neville would be highlighting it as being bobbins & wondering what the fuck he thinks he's doing.

If you genuinely don't know that is awful defending, then you really don't know what defenders are supposed to do. I tend to believe you know exactly how bad it is, but don't want to take in what you are actually looking at.

Defending right in keeping with the shite City served up on Wed, as SCF08 rightly says.

Why am I not surprised you think it's terrible by Rekik? If every time a striker had time to hit the ball first time on the volley from 30 yards it was "terrible defending", then I think you'll find terrible defending on pretty much every attack in every game. Not sure how many 3rd division games you watch if you think players are volleying it in first time from that distance all the time. Had the lad been headed in, clear through on goal, then I might be inclined to agree, but he wasn't, he was given half a yard, 30 yards out.

He's over to the left of the striker as that's where the ball started, the ball gets heaved over to the other side of the pitch and headed back across from right to left, so the attacker is always going to be first to the ball coming from that side. He had a perfectly reasonable amount of pressure on him, so he had no option but to swing leg at it at the very first opportunity, and it flew in the net. Unless you are honestly suggesting that no attacking player should ever be able to first to a flick on header, anywhere on the ptich, it's hard to see what you are expecting from your defenders.

But obviously, I have no idea why I'm even bothering defending Rekik to you, as I may as well be talking to a brick wall. Seeming as I've already typed it, I may as well hit post, but I'm not going to respond to your inevitable response, as it would be as big a waste of my time as posting this was.

And yet another poster has actually posted a video of said incident & thinks exactly the same as I do.

Another with an irrational dislike of Rekik, or just someone who understands the basics of defending ? Which it appears you genuinely don't.

 

[SCF08]

Rekik has been called up to the Dutch National Team again.

Bruno Martins Indi and Ron Vlaar have both left the squad due to injuries.

Holland is in meltdown because of the choices that Hiddink is making. During the World Cup there was only 1 PSV player in the squad and former PSV manager Hiddink has now selected 7.

It's an absolute joke. Hiddink has lost 4 in 5 matches and already stated that he'll leave if Holland don't beat Latvia on Sunday.