Karim Rekik

[Neville Kneville]

I disagree, the Eredivisie is still better than the Championship, well the top teams anyway, and he will develop a much more cultured approach to defending which is what I think all young defenders should learn first before they they get into rough and tumble type defending.

He could be a title winner with PSV this season as well which will do wonders for his mentality.

I still think neither Rekik or Denayer are ready for our squad yet and I hope with them both impressing on their loans I hope they can move on to another loan in a better league.

I hope Txiki's connections can get a few of our youngsters loans in Spain.

Their's only 3 teams that would survive in the championship in the eredivise PSV, Ajax, and Feynoord. I don't know where your head is at but the Championship is way better than the Eredivise and even the top teams to are better than the PSV and Feynoord but not Ajax.Only team that is better Ajax. The Championship was better in technical and physical skills.

Great analysis there mate.. lol

PSV's attack is better than a Championship attack. They are pretty good going forward. The defence isn't better than some Championship defences though, & many Championship teams would give them problems. Quite a few of the Dutch teams don't.

 

[SCF08]

Is it fair to say another season on loan in Holland wasn't the correct move?

I'd have preferred Rekik having a season at a top Championship side, rather than in Dutch football. That way he'd have been a little more used to defending in English football.

It's one thing defending in Holland, it's a completely different animal defending in the battle of English football.

I think Rekik has a lot of quality and potential, even if he may not be our style of CB, but it seems like a bit of a wasted year.

I disagree, the Eredivisie is still better than the Championship, well the top teams anyway, and he will develop a much more cultured approach to defending which is what I think all young defenders should learn first before they they get into rough and tumble type defending.

He could be a title winner with PSV this season as well which will do wonders for his mentality.

I still think neither Rekik or Denayer are ready for our squad yet and I hope with them both impressing on their loans I hope they can move on to another loan in a better league.

I hope Txiki's connections can get a few of our youngsters loans in Spain.

Their's only 3 teams that would survive in the championship in the eredivise PSV, Ajax, and Feynoord. I don't know where your head is at but the Championship is way better than the Eredivise and even the top teams to are better than the PSV and Feynoord but not Ajax.Only team that is better Ajax. The Championship was better in technical and physical skills.

You must be having a laugh.

The top 3 in the Eredivisie are certainly mid-table Premier League teams. The 4 till 9 teams are definitely top Championship material. There is more than enough quality at the likes of Vitesse, FC Twente, AZ Alkmaar, PEC Zwolle and Heerenveen. The teams ranked 10-13 would be mid-table Championship and the 14-18 teams are League 1 material. That gap is pretty big.

I'm not that sure that any Championship team would beat and qualify ahead of Sevilla in the Europa League like Feyenoord did. PSV are also already qualified for the next round with 1 game to go.

The fact that you name Ajax as the best team in the Eredivisie tells me everything about your lack of knowledge. PSV have by far the most talented squad in the Eredivisie this season. Only their central defenders in Bruma and Rekik are very average. You think a midfield of Andres Guardado, Georginio Wijnaldum and Adam Maher would struggle in the Premier League? Along with potential superstar Depay on the left wing and Narsingh on the right with Luuk de Jong as centre forward?

It's embarassing to see the crap walking around (and style) in the Championship looking at the fact that they spend more than twice as much on wages as the Eredivisie teams.

 

[EllisMCFC]

I disagree, the Eredivisie is still better than the Championship, well the top teams anyway, and he will develop a much more cultured approach to defending which is what I think all young defenders should learn first before they they get into rough and tumble type defending.

He could be a title winner with PSV this season as well which will do wonders for his mentality.

I still think neither Rekik or Denayer are ready for our squad yet and I hope with them both impressing on their loans I hope they can move on to another loan in a better league.

I hope Txiki's connections can get a few of our youngsters loans in Spain.

Their's only 3 teams that would survive in the championship in the eredivise PSV, Ajax, and Feynoord. I don't know where your head is at but the Championship is way better than the Eredivise and even the top teams to are better than the PSV and Feynoord but not Ajax.Only team that is better Ajax. The Championship is better in technical and physical skills.

You must be having a laugh.

The top 3 in the Eredivisie are certainly mid-table Premier League teams. The 4 till 9 teams are definitely top Championship material. There is more than enough quality at the likes of Vitesse, FC Twente, AZ Alkmaar, PEC Zwolle and Heerenveen. The teams ranked 10-13 would be mid-table Championship and the 14-18 teams are League 1 material. That gap is pretty big.

I'm not that sure that any Championship team would beat and qualify ahead of Sevilla in the Europa League like Feyenoord did. PSV are also already qualified for the next round with 1 game to go.

The fact that you name Ajax as the best team in the Eredivisie tells me everything about your lack of knowledge. PSV have by far the most talented squad in the Eredivisie this season. Only their central defenders in Bruma and Rekik are very average. You think a midfield of Andres Guardado, Georginio Wijnaldum and Adam Maher would struggle in the Premier League? Along with potential superstar Depay on the left wing and Narsingh on the right with Luuk de Jong as centre forward?

It's embarassing to see the crap walking around (and style) in the Championship looking at the fact that they spend more than twice as much on wages as the Eredivisie teams.

Nah mate, you must be having a drink or three the way your talking

In my opinion the team that could matain a top ten finish in the Prem is Ajax because of their technical and interplay skills within their squad ex. Christian Eriksen and PSV would be above 10 but not in the drop zone,(ex like Sunderland or Aston Villa) only because of wingers and centre-half Luuk De Jong. But in my opinion teams 4-9 would struggle mataining a soild defensive front against teams in the Championship because of their lack of balance between attacking and defense. I've watched the Eredivise at times and even the top teams defense is very poor even PSV who are top of the table have a leaky defense. PSV give up many goals because of imbalance in defense and attack although they won 3-1 they were down 1-0 to a early goalwhich Mark Lieder scored for Dorechdt 09 who are bottom of Eredivise table. So in that case the Championship is far better throughout the table than Eredivise throughout table. The teams in Championship actually have a balance and top teams have the best defense unlike teams in Eredivise like PSV and Ajax. Although teams in Eredivise have better attacks. But as I say and others Defense wins Championship and Attack wins matches.


Also one more note Sevilla played their B team as their was no Beto, Carlos Bacca, Nicholas Pareja, or Gerad Defouleu. So in that case you can't really rate that game although Terence Kongolo is one to look out for. Sevilla did not play a good team in that matter. So give me another example. Although I still believe Karim Rekik can improve and maybe have a future in our team in a year or two.

 

[nktakm]

Their's only 3 teams that would survive in the championship in the eredivise PSV, Ajax, and Feynoord. I don't know where your head is at but the Championship is way better than the Eredivise and even the top teams to are better than the PSV and Feynoord but not Ajax.Only team that is better Ajax. The Championship is better in technical and physical skills.

You must be having a laugh.

The top 3 in the Eredivisie are certainly mid-table Premier League teams. The 4 till 9 teams are definitely top Championship material. There is more than enough quality at the likes of Vitesse, FC Twente, AZ Alkmaar, PEC Zwolle and Heerenveen. The teams ranked 10-13 would be mid-table Championship and the 14-18 teams are League 1 material. That gap is pretty big.

I'm not that sure that any Championship team would beat and qualify ahead of Sevilla in the Europa League like Feyenoord did. PSV are also already qualified for the next round with 1 game to go.

The fact that you name Ajax as the best team in the Eredivisie tells me everything about your lack of knowledge. PSV have by far the most talented squad in the Eredivisie this season. Only their central defenders in Bruma and Rekik are very average. You think a midfield of Andres Guardado, Georginio Wijnaldum and Adam Maher would struggle in the Premier League? Along with potential superstar Depay on the left wing and Narsingh on the right with Luuk de Jong as centre forward?

It's embarassing to see the crap walking around (and style) in the Championship looking at the fact that they spend more than twice as much on wages as the Eredivisie teams.

Nah mate, you must be having a drink or three the way your talking

In my opinion the team that could matain a top ten finish in the Prem is Ajax because of their technical and interplay skills within their squad ex. Christian Eriksen and PSV would be above 10 but not in the drop zone,(ex like Sunderland or Aston Villa) only because of wingers and centre-half Luuk De Jong. But in my opinion teams 4-9 would struggle mataining a soild defensive front against teams in the Championship because of their lack of balance between attacking and defense. I've watched the Eredivise at times and even the top teams defense is very poor even PSV who are top of the table have a leaky defense. PSV give up many goals because of imbalance in defense and attack although they won 3-1 they were down 1-0 to a early goalwhich Mark Lieder scored for Dorechdt 09 who are bottom of Eredivise table. So in that case the Championship is far better throughout the table than Eredivise throughout table. The teams in Championship actually have a balance and top teams have the best defense unlike teams in Eredivise like PSV and Ajax. Although teams in Eredivise have better attacks. But as I say and others Defense wins Championship and Attack wins matches.


Also one more note Sevilla played their B team as their was no Beto, Carlos Bacca, Nicholas Pareja, or Gerad Defouleu. So in that case you can't really rate that game although Terence Kongolo is one to look out for. Sevilla did not play a good team in that matter. So give me another example. Although I still believe Karim Rekik can improve and maybe have a future in our team in a year or two.

Eriksen? Really?

 

[EllisMCFC]

You must be having a laugh.

The top 3 in the Eredivisie are certainly mid-table Premier League teams. The 4 till 9 teams are definitely top Championship material. There is more than enough quality at the likes of Vitesse, FC Twente, AZ Alkmaar, PEC Zwolle and Heerenveen. The teams ranked 10-13 would be mid-table Championship and the 14-18 teams are League 1 material. That gap is pretty big.

I'm not that sure that any Championship team would beat and qualify ahead of Sevilla in the Europa League like Feyenoord did. PSV are also already qualified for the next round with 1 game to go.

The fact that you name Ajax as the best team in the Eredivisie tells me everything about your lack of knowledge. PSV have by far the most talented squad in the Eredivisie this season. Only their central defenders in Bruma and Rekik are very average. You think a midfield of Andres Guardado, Georginio Wijnaldum and Adam Maher would struggle in the Premier League? Along with potential superstar Depay on the left wing and Narsingh on the right with Luuk de Jong as centre forward?

It's embarassing to see the crap walking around (and style) in the Championship looking at the fact that they spend more than twice as much on wages as the Eredivisie teams.

Nah mate, you must be having a drink or three the way your talking

In my opinion the team that could matain a top ten finish in the Prem is Ajax because of their technical and interplay skills within their squad ex. Christian Eriksen and PSV would be above 10 but not in the drop zone,(ex like Sunderland or Aston Villa) only because of wingers and centre-half Luuk De Jong. But in my opinion teams 4-9 would struggle mataining a soild defensive front against teams in the Championship because of their lack of balance between attacking and defense. I've watched the Eredivise at times and even the top teams defense is very poor even PSV who are top of the table have a leaky defense. PSV give up many goals because of imbalance in defense and attack although they won 3-1 they were down 1-0 to a early goalwhich Mark Lieder scored for Dorechdt 09 who are bottom of Eredivise table. So in that case the Championship is far better throughout the table than Eredivise throughout table. The teams in Championship actually have a balance and top teams have the best defense unlike teams in Eredivise like PSV and Ajax. Although teams in Eredivise have better attacks. But as I say and others Defense wins Championship and Attack wins matches.


Also one more note Sevilla played their B team as their was no Beto, Carlos Bacca, Nicholas Pareja, or Gerad Defouleu. So in that case you can't really rate that game although Terence Kongolo is one to look out for. Sevilla did not play a good team in that matter. So give me another example. Although I still believe Karim Rekik can improve and maybe have a future in our team in a year or two.

Eriksen? Really?

Been in good form of late and carried the team against Everton and Hull so yeah really.

 

[SCF08]

Nah mate, you must be having a drink or three the way your talking

In my opinion the team that could matain a top ten finish in the Prem is Ajax because of their technical and interplay skills within their squad ex. Christian Eriksen and PSV would be above 10 but not in the drop zone,(ex like Sunderland or Aston Villa) only because of wingers and centre-half Luuk De Jong. But in my opinion teams 4-9 would struggle mataining a soild defensive front against teams in the Championship because of their lack of balance between attacking and defense. I've watched the Eredivise at times and even the top teams defense is very poor even PSV who are top of the table have a leaky defense. PSV give up many goals because of imbalance in defense and attack although they won 3-1 they were down 1-0 to a early goalwhich Mark Lieder scored for Dorechdt 09 who are bottom of Eredivise table. So in that case the Championship is far better throughout the table than Eredivise throughout table. The teams in Championship actually have a balance and top teams have the best defense unlike teams in Eredivise like PSV and Ajax. Although teams in Eredivise have better attacks. But as I say and others Defense wins Championship and Attack wins matches.


Also one more note Sevilla played their B team as their was no Beto, Carlos Bacca, Nicholas Pareja, or Gerad Defouleu. So in that case you can't really rate that game although Terence Kongolo is one to look out for. Sevilla did not play a good team in that matter. So give me another example. Although I still believe Karim Rekik can improve and maybe have a future in our team in a year or two.

Eriksen? Really?

Been in good form of late and carried the team against Everton and Hull so yeah really.

You're exactly making my point more valid.

You mention Eriksen but you cannot name a proper player in the current Ajax team. There is no Eriksen in the current Ajax side. PSV are by far the stronger team and squad. They have a lot more technical and physical ability. The only downside to their squad is that most of them are a bunch of muppets and think they're Maradona (which is the old Ajax mentality).

The only decent Ajax player at the moment is Klaassen. Milik is a good player as well but he's used in a rotation system so that Ajax can sell Sigthorsson in january. Everybody else is just bang average or way too inexperienced.

 

[EllisMCFC]

Eriksen? Really?

Been in good form of late and carried the team against Everton and Hull so yeah really.

You're exactly making my point more valid.

You mention Eriksen but you cannot name a proper player in the current Ajax team. There is no Eriksen in the current Ajax side. PSV are by far the stronger team and squad. They have a lot more technical and physical ability. The only downside to their squad is that most of them are a bunch of muppets and think they're Maradona (which is the old Ajax mentality).

The only decent Ajax player at the moment is Klaassen. Milik is a good player as well but he's used in a rotation system so that Ajax can sell Sigthorsson in january. Everybody else is just bang average or way too inexperienced.

What the hell is wrong with you, I'm not talking about how PSV slightly superior to Ajax I'm discussing about how Championship is better than the Eredivise I think you should refresh your mind on our conversation. Just curious but do you suffer from short term memory loss. It's seems you may have lost some important information in the previous post. And here's another refresher we also discussed the fact that you think Feyenoord, Ajax, and PSV could stay in the premier league with their leaky defensive's. Hey a tip from me stay off the beer when going on this forum so your don't sound so incompetent.

 

[SCF08]

Been in good form of late and carried the team against Everton and Hull so yeah really.

You're exactly making my point more valid.

You mention Eriksen but you cannot name a proper player in the current Ajax team. There is no Eriksen in the current Ajax side. PSV are by far the stronger team and squad. They have a lot more technical and physical ability. The only downside to their squad is that most of them are a bunch of muppets and think they're Maradona (which is the old Ajax mentality).

The only decent Ajax player at the moment is Klaassen. Milik is a good player as well but he's used in a rotation system so that Ajax can sell Sigthorsson in january. Everybody else is just bang average or way too inexperienced.

What the hell is wrong with you, I'm not talking about how PSV slightly superior to Ajax I'm discussing about how Championship is better than the Eredivise I think you should refresh your mind on our conversation. Just curious but do you suffer from short term memory loss. It's seems you may have lost some important information in the previous post. And here's another refresher we also discussed the fact that you think Feyenoord, Ajax, and PSV could stay in the premier league with their leaky defensive's. Hey a tip from me stay off the beer when going on this forum so your don't sound so incompetent.

I'm not incompetent. Your knowledge of the Eredivisie and the teams is appalling. There is no reason for me to go round and round in discussion with you about comparing the top Eredivisie teams to Championship teams.

You must really hate this news message from yesterday
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/kongolo-volop-in-belangstelling-europese-topclubs.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/kongolo-volop-i ... pclubs.htm</a>

Feyenoord's other central defender is tracked by AC Milan. Feyenoord's centre back pairing last year have moved on to Lazio Roma and FC Porto and are playing every minute. They also became third at the World Cup 2014 and one of them was named best defender at the World Cup (De Vrij and Martins Indi). <a class="postlink" href="http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/castrol-index/ranking.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics ... nking.html</a> . Daryl Janmaat played right back last year and moved on to Newcastle and is nominated for Premier League player of the month for November. Feyenoord also lost a Premier League manager and Premier League player of the month this September in the summer.

Holland's complete defense at the World Cup (Except Vlaar) played in the Eredivisie. Pretty bad and leaky isn't it? Where were your Championship defenders? They must be really good if they can't get ahead in the squad before the jokes of defenders called Smalling, Cahill, Jagielka and Jones.

PSV's current centre back partnership (Rekik and Bruma) have been poached from Feyenoord's youth academy by City and Chelsea. There is also another left-back at Chelsea who has been poached from Feyenoord youth academy (Ake).

Moisander of Ajax will most likely move to Spurs during the winter window. Spurs have also acquired Vertonghen a couple of years ago from Ajax. Toby Alderweireld is doing pretty well at Southampton who came from Ajax. The rags also poached a central defender (Fosu-Mensah) from the Ajax academy last summer. Blind also moved to the rags.

I'm pretty sure Championship teams don't have to adapt this often, sell players/defenders to clubs this stature. There is a reason for that and that's because they're not good enough.

There are 3 Eredivisie teams and 2 English teams in the Europa League after the winter so hopefully there will be a match when the draw is made on monday. You can then see the comparison to a top Eredivisie side and a good Premier League side in Spurs or Everton who are lightyears ahead of every team in the Championship.

 

[EllisMCFC]

You're exactly making my point more valid.

You mention Eriksen but you cannot name a proper player in the current Ajax team. There is no Eriksen in the current Ajax side. PSV are by far the stronger team and squad. They have a lot more technical and physical ability. The only downside to their squad is that most of them are a bunch of muppets and think they're Maradona (which is the old Ajax mentality).

The only decent Ajax player at the moment is Klaassen. Milik is a good player as well but he's used in a rotation system so that Ajax can sell Sigthorsson in january. Everybody else is just bang average or way too inexperienced.

What the hell is wrong with you, I'm not talking about how PSV slightly superior to Ajax I'm discussing about how Championship is better than the Eredivise I think you should refresh your mind on our conversation. Just curious but do you suffer from short term memory loss. It's seems you may have lost some important information in the previous post. And here's another refresher we also discussed the fact that you think Feyenoord, Ajax, and PSV could stay in the premier league with their leaky defensive's. Hey a tip from me stay off the beer when going on this forum so your don't sound so incompetent.

I'm not incompetent. Your knowledge of the Eredivisie and the teams is appalling. There is no reason for me to go round and round in discussion with you about comparing the top Eredivisie teams to Championship teams.

You must really hate this news message from yesterday
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/kongolo-volop-in-belangstelling-europese-topclubs.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/kongolo-volop-i ... pclubs.htm</a>

Feyenoord's other central defender is tracked by AC Milan. Feyenoord's centre back pairing last year have moved on to Lazio Roma and FC Porto and are playing every minute. They also became third at the World Cup 2014 and one of them was named best defender at the World Cup (De Vrij and Martins Indi). <a class="postlink" href="http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/castrol-index/ranking.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics ... nking.html</a> . Daryl Janmaat played right back last year and moved on to Newcastle and is nominated for Premier League player of the month for November. Feyenoord also lost a Premier League manager and Premier League player of the month this September in the summer.

Holland's complete defense at the World Cup (Except Vlaar) played in the Eredivisie. Pretty bad and leaky isn't it? Where were your Championship defenders? They must be really good if they can't get ahead in the squad before the jokes of defenders called Smalling, Cahill, Jagielka and Jones.

PSV's current centre back partnership (Rekik and Bruma) have been poached from Feyenoord's youth academy by City and Chelsea. There is also another left-back at Chelsea who has been poached from Feyenoord youth academy (Ake).

Moisander of Ajax will most likely move to Spurs during the winter window. Spurs have also acquired Vertonghen a couple of years ago from Ajax. Toby Alderweireld is doing pretty well at Southampton who came from Ajax. The rags also poached a central defender (Fosu-Mensah) from the Ajax academy last summer. Blind also moved to the rags.

I'm pretty sure Championship teams don't have to adapt this often, sell players/defenders to clubs this stature. There is a reason for that and that's because they're not good enough.

There are 3 Eredivisie teams and 2 English teams in the Europa League after the winter so hopefully there will be a match when the draw is made on monday. You can then see the comparison to a top Eredivisie side and a good Premier League side in Spurs or Everton who are lightyears ahead of every team in the Championship.

I'm not arguing the abilities of Dutch players in the English Premier League I'm trying to tell you that the only team that would be in the top 10 in the Premier League is Ajax because of their technical abilities. I know players from Dutch League are exceptional talents but I talking all around teams and with the quality throughout the team I have to say that PSV and Feyenoord would be a team above the top 10. And that teams 4-9 would be low championship teams. Their no doubt that talent is one of the best in league it's just teams all around defense is poor and would be exploited by All Premier League teams and Top 10 Championship clubs. And for I just don't think PSV can stay in the top 10 with their leaky defense. And for me Feyenoord are solid in defense but not soild enough they gave up two goals to side 14th in Eredivise called Excelsior not sure if you have heard of them because you only no top teams Mr.IthinkInoEredivise. Again just to refresh your mind please reread the post to know what were discussing here. It's not about the standout players for Eredivise teams it's the whole teams themselves and why I think only Ajax could contend in the Premier League. But the real story will be how Ajax, Feyenoord, and PSV contend in the knockout stages of the Europa league vs Everton,Liverpool,and Tottenham in the knockout stages. From top to bottom the Eredivise has a big gap and only Ajax have the necessary tools in their team to compete beginning to end and finish top 10 in premier league.

 

[CΛL]

The championship is 100% a better and bigger league than the dutch league. The dutch league is maybe slightly better than the scottish league and thats only because of Ajax and PSV. Ajax and PSV would be lucky to come in the top 8/9 in the prem. They would obviously do well in the championship, but other than them, the quality of the dutch football league isn't as good as the championship. The remaining teams in the dutch league are lower championship and league one standard. Go Ahead Eagles are fucking conference standard.

Rekik is a good young player and tbf you can't be bad if you get in the provisional dutch world cup squad. For me though, Denayer looks a better prospect. Can't see rekik getting a chance ahead of demi, mangala and denayer. He's undoubtedly better than boyata though.

 

[SCF08]

What the hell is wrong with you, I'm not talking about how PSV slightly superior to Ajax I'm discussing about how Championship is better than the Eredivise I think you should refresh your mind on our conversation. Just curious but do you suffer from short term memory loss. It's seems you may have lost some important information in the previous post. And here's another refresher we also discussed the fact that you think Feyenoord, Ajax, and PSV could stay in the premier league with their leaky defensive's. Hey a tip from me stay off the beer when going on this forum so your don't sound so incompetent.

I'm not incompetent. Your knowledge of the Eredivisie and the teams is appalling. There is no reason for me to go round and round in discussion with you about comparing the top Eredivisie teams to Championship teams.

You must really hate this news message from yesterday
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/kongolo-volop-in-belangstelling-europese-topclubs.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/kongolo-volop-i ... pclubs.htm</a>

Feyenoord's other central defender is tracked by AC Milan. Feyenoord's centre back pairing last year have moved on to Lazio Roma and FC Porto and are playing every minute. They also became third at the World Cup 2014 and one of them was named best defender at the World Cup (De Vrij and Martins Indi). <a class="postlink" href="http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/castrol-index/ranking.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics ... nking.html</a> . Daryl Janmaat played right back last year and moved on to Newcastle and is nominated for Premier League player of the month for November. Feyenoord also lost a Premier League manager and Premier League player of the month this September in the summer.

Holland's complete defense at the World Cup (Except Vlaar) played in the Eredivisie. Pretty bad and leaky isn't it? Where were your Championship defenders? They must be really good if they can't get ahead in the squad before the jokes of defenders called Smalling, Cahill, Jagielka and Jones.

PSV's current centre back partnership (Rekik and Bruma) have been poached from Feyenoord's youth academy by City and Chelsea. There is also another left-back at Chelsea who has been poached from Feyenoord youth academy (Ake).

Moisander of Ajax will most likely move to Spurs during the winter window. Spurs have also acquired Vertonghen a couple of years ago from Ajax. Toby Alderweireld is doing pretty well at Southampton who came from Ajax. The rags also poached a central defender (Fosu-Mensah) from the Ajax academy last summer. Blind also moved to the rags.

I'm pretty sure Championship teams don't have to adapt this often, sell players/defenders to clubs this stature. There is a reason for that and that's because they're not good enough.

There are 3 Eredivisie teams and 2 English teams in the Europa League after the winter so hopefully there will be a match when the draw is made on monday. You can then see the comparison to a top Eredivisie side and a good Premier League side in Spurs or Everton who are lightyears ahead of every team in the Championship.

I'm not arguing the abilities of Dutch players in the English Premier League I'm trying to tell you that the only team that would be in the top 10 in the Premier League is Ajax because of their technical abilities. I know players from Dutch League are exceptional talents but I talking all around teams and with the quality throughout the team I have to say that PSV and Feyenoord would be a team above the top 10. And that teams 4-9 would be low championship teams. Their no doubt that talent is one of the best in league it's just teams all around defense is poor and would be exploited by All Premier League teams and Top 10 Championship clubs. And for I just don't think PSV can stay in the top 10 with their leaky defense. And for me Feyenoord are solid in defense but not soild enough they gave up two goals to side 14th in Eredivise called Excelsior not sure if you have heard of them because you only no top teams Mr.IthinkInoEredivise. Again just to refresh your mind please reread the post to know what were discussing here. It's not about the standout players for Eredivise teams it's the whole teams themselves and why I think only Ajax could contend in the Premier League. But the real story will be how Ajax, Feyenoord, and PSV contend in the knockout stages of the Europa league vs Everton,Liverpool,and Tottenham in the knockout stages. From top to bottom the Eredivise has a big gap and only Ajax have the necessary tools in their team to compete beginning to end and finish top 10 in premier league.

What I'm trying to tell you multiple times is that PSV is technically superior to Ajax. Their players are a lot more gifted than the Ajax players. But you wouldn't know that because you're English and you still believe in the Ajax mythe and you don't have the opportunity to watch more games. Feyenoord's team is stronger as well as Ajax and probably the best "collective team" in the Eredivisie. They had a pretty bad start because they lost more than halve their team and manager to bigger teams and their late signings needed to gel first.

Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord would survive pretty easily in the Premier League. If Stoke City can be a top 9 team like last year then there is no reason why Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord can't be a 9th place team. Bojan Krkic is a star player for Stoke and he was rubbish in the Eredivisie and often on the bench at Ajax. He has already scored as many goals this year as last year.

I do know that Feyenoord conceded 2 goals last weekend against Excelsior. 1 goal was offside and the other was an own goal. Excelsior scored when Feyenoord lost concentration and were up by a fairly big margin. Did you know that those were the only 2 goals conceded by Feyenoord in the last 8 games (since October 26th). And that included 3 Europa League games against Rijeka, Sevilla and Standard Liege. Did you also know that Feyenoord finished ahead of Sevilla in the Europa League group? The same Sevilla that won the Europa League last year.

The 4-9 teams in the Eredivisie would easily be top 10 in the Championship. There is more than enough talent in every team. FC Twente have a very good side despite selling Dusan Tadic to Southampton (most assist in PL this year you know) and Quincy Promes to Spartak Moscow (Player of the month in Russia in November). No Championship team can even get close to the quality they have in midfield and attack.

PEC Zwolle have a very good allround side. They absolutely outplayed Ajax last year in the Cup final winning 5-1 and doing the same thing over this year in the Super Cup by beating Ajax at their own ground.

A guy like Josh McEachran is nowhere near Vitesse's first team because of top players like Propper and Vejinovic. That's the same Vitesse that recently sold Marco van Ginkel to Chelsea (Now on loan at AC MIlan) and a certain Wilfried Bony that you may heard of. They also lost Christian Atsu, Patrick van Aanholt and Lucas Piazon from last years squad.

AZ Alkmaar would also be a top Championship team. They lack a bit of depth up front and missed their 2 strongest attackers for most of the season but their defence is solid and their midfield is very strong as well. They have 2 very exciting players coming through the academy as well in midfield in Haye and Dos Santos. They are keeping one of Norways biggest prospect and a regular player for them (Markus Henriksen) out of the side.

I agree that the gap between the top half and bottom half is pretty big. I stated before that the bottom 4 sides in the Eredivisie are League 1 material.

Some of the defending may look suspect but most top 4-9 Eredivisie defenders are not worse than Championship defenders. The style of play is different and defenders are a lot more exposed because of all the attacking. The midfielders and attackers in a lot of Eredivisie teams have extra quality that most Championship teams don't have. I'm sure that most midfields and attacking line ups of the top 9 teams in the Eredivisie are stronger than the 13th/20th ranked teams in the Premier League. The quality of the goalkeepers is the biggest difference between bottom ranked Prem side and top Eredivisie sides (apart from Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV).

 

[SamTheGuru]

This seems to be going miles off topic. Ultimately, Rekik is getting a tonne of experience at a decent level and it can only be a good thing.

 

[Neville Kneville]

This seems to be going miles off topic. Ultimately, Rekik is getting a tonne of experience at a decent level and it can only be a good thing.

Ok provided he goes somewhere better next season.

He needs testing & to learn vs decent quality, tough, opposition more than two or three times a season, which is all the test he gets in that league. Most of the time, he is up against nothing.

 

[BigOscar]

Big game for him tonight against Feynoord. The more I see PSV, the less I think he can learn there, playing alongside Bruma. Jesus Christ he's bad, I don't know how you are supposed to play alongside someone who you know at any second will completely fuck everything up.

Feynoord just scored a goal where Bruma could not have tried any harder to help them, it's just staggering. Feynoord have sensibly set up the plan of trying to lure Rekik away from goal to track Kazim-Richards, leaving Bruma as the last man, and just waiting for him to inevitably balls it up, which he's promptly done.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Big game for him tonight against Feynoord. The more I see PSV, the less I think he can learn there, playing alongside Bruma. Jesus Christ he's bad, I don't know how you are supposed to play alongside someone who you know at any second will completely fuck everything up.

Feynoord just scored a goal where Bruma could not have tried any harder to help them, it's just staggering. Feynoord have sensibly set up the plan of trying to lure Rekik away from goal to track Kazim-Richards, leaving Bruma as the last man, and just waiting for him to inevitably balls it up, which he's promptly done.

Recording this & will watch it later, but if you mean Rekik running forward out of the line, not getting to the player receiving the ball quick enough, who lays it off & leaving a gap behind him which the oppo run into, he does it v everyone at some point in every game. It's lije his trademark. Usually the oppo are totally shit & miss the chance.

Did it several times v Twente in the last game.

Bruma has been better than him in every game I've seen. Not any good, but better than him.

 

[Bilboblue]

Big game for him tonight against Feynoord. The more I see PSV, the less I think he can learn there, playing alongside Bruma. Jesus Christ he's bad, I don't know how you are supposed to play alongside someone who you know at any second will completely fuck everything up.

Feynoord just scored a goal where Bruma could not have tried any harder to help them, it's just staggering. Feynoord have sensibly set up the plan of trying to lure Rekik away from goal to track Kazim-Richards, leaving Bruma as the last man, and just waiting for him to inevitably balls it up, which he's promptly done.

Recording this & will watch it later, but if you mean Rekik running forward out of the line, not getting to the player receiving the ball quick enough, who lays it off & leaving a gap behind him which the oppo run into, he does it v everyone at some point in every game. It's lije his trademark. Usually the oppo are totally shit & miss the chance.

Did it several times v Twente in the last game.

Bruma has been better than him in every game I've seen. Not any good, but better than him.

Wait til you see his attempt to stop Feyenoords first goal then.

 

[BigOscar]

Big game for him tonight against Feynoord. The more I see PSV, the less I think he can learn there, playing alongside Bruma. Jesus Christ he's bad, I don't know how you are supposed to play alongside someone who you know at any second will completely fuck everything up.

Feynoord just scored a goal where Bruma could not have tried any harder to help them, it's just staggering. Feynoord have sensibly set up the plan of trying to lure Rekik away from goal to track Kazim-Richards, leaving Bruma as the last man, and just waiting for him to inevitably balls it up, which he's promptly done.

Recording this & will watch it later, but if you mean Rekik running forward out of the line, not getting to the player receiving the ball quick enough, who lays it off & leaving a gap behind him which the oppo run into, he does it v everyone at some point in every game. It's lije his trademark. Usually the oppo are totally shit & miss the chance.

Did it several times v Twente in the last game.

Bruma has been better than him in every game I've seen. Not any good, but better than him.

Nothing he can do about it in this game, it's the way Feynoord are set up (pretty cleverly tbf). Kazim Richards is the lone striker, but comes short to pick up the ball, taking Rekik with him, then Manu comes off the left wing to become the furthest forward, and is just abusing Bruma. Neither fullback is exactly covering themselves with glory with their point blank refusal to track runners coming off the wings.

Hendricks, the holding midfielder, could probably pick up Kazim Richards instead, or at least try and stop them passing it down the center of the pitch and it wouldn't hurt the fullbacks to at least try and do a bit of defending, but leaving Bruma on his own looks like a disaster waiting to happen. He gifted Feynoord one goal, but could easily have gifted another and given away a penalty. The second goal is again a problem of no one stopping them passing it down the middle, Kazim Richards again making a good run that Rekik has to follow, this time in behind, only for El Ahmadi to also make a run, which the leftback Willems just gave up on, when he was perfectly placed to cut it out if he'd bothered to continue. The whole thing is a shambles tbh, Kazim Richards is having a massive impact by just making decoy runs that Rekik has to follow, then letting midfield runners take advantage of the other defenders brain farts. This team doesn't appear to have any defensive strategy at all.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Big game for him tonight against Feynoord. The more I see PSV, the less I think he can learn there, playing alongside Bruma. Jesus Christ he's bad, I don't know how you are supposed to play alongside someone who you know at any second will completely fuck everything up.

Feynoord just scored a goal where Bruma could not have tried any harder to help them, it's just staggering. Feynoord have sensibly set up the plan of trying to lure Rekik away from goal to track Kazim-Richards, leaving Bruma as the last man, and just waiting for him to inevitably balls it up, which he's promptly done.

Recording this & will watch it later, but if you mean Rekik running forward out of the line, not getting to the player receiving the ball quick enough, who lays it off & leaving a gap behind him which the oppo run into, he does it v everyone at some point in every game. It's lije his trademark. Usually the oppo are totally shit & miss the chance.

Did it several times v Twente in the last game.

Bruma has been better than him in every game I've seen. Not any good, but better than him.

Nothing he can do about it in this game, it's the way Feynoord are set up (pretty cleverly tbf). Kazim Richards is the lone striker, but comes short to pick up the ball, taking Rekik with him, then Manu comes off the left wing to become the furthest forward, and is just abusing Bruma. Neither fullback is exactly covering themselves with glory with their point blank refusal to track runners coming off the wings.

Hendricks, the holding midfielder, could probably pick up Kazim Richards instead, or at least try and stop them passing it down the center of the pitch and it wouldn't hurt the fullbacks to at least try and do a bit of defending, but leaving Bruma on his own looks like a disaster waiting to happen. He gifted Feynoord one goal, but could easily have gifted another and given away a penalty. The second goal is again a problem of no one stopping them passing it down the middle, Kazim Richards again making a good run that Rekik has to follow, this time in behind, only for El Ahmadi to also make a run, which the leftback Willems just gave up on, when he was perfectly placed to cut it out if he'd bothered to continue. The whole thing is a shambles tbh, Kazim Richards is having a massive impact by just making decoy runs that Rekik has to follow, then letting midfield runners take advantage of the other defenders brain farts. This team doesn't appear to have any defensive strategy at all.

From what I've seen of Dutch football, in particular PSV, most of the defenders, in luding Rekik are awful, & the teams are awful defensively as teams, but most weeks, the top teams are playing v oppisition who are also fucking useless going forward, so Rekim for example, can go through 90 mins just picking up loose balls & clearing headers. Making the odd block.

When some one runs at him, they often go straight past him, but they rarely even run at him. And wgen he or anyone else fucks up, they get away with it.

Then suddenly, these teams who have better forwards play each other & the defending is a circus, usually at both ends as there are 8 crap defenders on the pitch at the same time.

It's like Ardiles' back 4 vs Brian Horton's all over again.

Excuse typos. Phone.

 

[Neville Kneville]

That Mexican dude who plays midfield is usually PSV's best defender when I see them.

 

[BigOscar]

Put it this way, I don't think I'd hire Philip Cocu as a manager. It doesn't ever look like he has even tried to put any defensive tactics or even a vague plan together. There's rarely more than 2 players in any sort of line, the fullbacks seem to be allowed to just do whatever they want and the midfield doesn't look like they've been told to do any defending. It's hardly the sort of place where you'd want to loan someone to learn how to defend properly.

The concept of tracking midfield runners seems completely lost on them. Lampard would probably bag 50 a season.