The original story was about Roosh V and a load of guys with extremely dangerous attitudes towards women congregating in Manchester. I agree it's reductive and sensationalist to define them as a "pro rape" group, but the fact remains that they hold women in total contempt, they swap tips on methods of harassing women, want to see rape made legal and advocate forced marriage. Theyre also completely fucking stupid as they think men should be able to sleep with whoever they want but think women who sleep around are disgusting sluts (the maths behind that worldview simply dont add up). Those of us talking about wives, daughters, mothers etc are overlooking that fact some of the guys that show up at these meetings see their own daughters as a problem because they want a good job when they finish school and are there to seek advice on how best to control them. It's really unpleasant and I dont know why a handful of people have posted in here without really addressing that and instead started ranting about feminism (which there is nothing wrong with) and false rape accusations.
I'm a woman (sorry if my name is misleading but it's an old in-joke as per a lot of the names in here). Just to clarify, I (along with every single person I know) think false rape accusations are disgusting. It's horrific some guys worry that they might find themselves in that situation somehow. It's also horrific though that every single time I go out with my female friends, the first thing we do when we get home is text each other to confirm "we got home ok". It's horrific that every single woman I know has been groped or assaulted at some stage or another (once at city actually). It's horrific that when I walk down the street at night and hear someone behind me, I assess my surroundings to see if there's anybody else around in screaming distance as it's unlikely they're BOTH going to be rapists. It's horrific that a group of guys are getting together to talk about why its ok to harass women and why women are to blame for all of the problems in their life, in OUR city. I just don't get why a small number of guys adopt a really defensive position when confronted with that. Unless you share their views nobody is attacking you.
The consequence of false rape claims are also hugely damaging to women too. Theyre a big part of the reason such a high proportion of actual rape victims are scared to come forward. If there is a meeting in Manchester where a load of women are going to talk how wonderful false rape claims are then we should have a thread on that and I'll be the first one to start laying into them. I wont be bringing Roosh V into the argument though as I wont need to. That's why I find it a bit gutting that a thread discussing Roosh V has descended into a discussion on false rape claims. You'd kind of hope itd be enough for everyone say what a shame it is that these idiots feel that way.
The real irony in all of this is that a lot of lads that are being swept in the Roosh V movement are the ones feeling increasingly powerless and overlooked in modern society. They're angry young men and they're blaming women for their situation when in fact it's other men, the ruling elite, who are chipping away at their liberties, their employment rights and leaving them with very little to look forward to.