Keir Starmer

Talking about business now, Mandy has wrote this, Blair is pulling the strings in the background.

What a rubbish speech. Very disappointing.

Yes, because it’s so obvious the next Labour leader will tick all the boxes and please everyone.

let’s face it, Labour fanbase are split. Socialist lefties who fly the red flag and boring fuckers like me who are more centrists that just want a reasonable opposition against the Tories.

No person is going to bridge the gap.

so it will just forever be a moanfest from Labour supporters and it’s why the Tories continue to March forward however bad they are.
 
Yes, because it’s so obvious the next Labour leader will tick all the boxes and please everyone.

let’s face it, Labour fanbase are split. Socialist lefties who fly the red flag and boring fuckers like me who are more centrists that just want a reasonable opposition against the Tories.

No person is going to bridge the gap.

so it will just forever be a moanfest from Labour supporters and it’s why the Tories continue to March forward however bad they are.
This is true, and your last sentence is also true.
What many on here fail to grasp, because they occupy the far left of the party and will brook no movement from that, is that to win elections any party has to capture what's commonly known as 'Middle England' and to capture the ever present floating voter. This isn't a theory of mine, or an effort to disparage Labour's left, not this time, it's common knowledge
and the only one from Labour who managed to do it, very successfully, was Blair. He is a hate figure for the left, but they still cling to the fantasy that
their politics will succeed, they won't, because the people they need to target, as explained above, will never accept them.
Starmer is of the left, another massive problem, but he's intelligent, and knows that propounding Corbyn like policies, will never get him into No.10,
so is now in the unenviable position of trying to run with the hare and hounds, it's not advancing him at all, in fact, he's falling behind even more.
I've said it many times, unless Labour find another Blair, they've had it.
 
Yes, because it’s so obvious the next Labour leader will tick all the boxes and please everyone.

let’s face it, Labour fanbase are split. Socialist lefties who fly the red flag and boring fuckers like me who are more centrists that just want a reasonable opposition against the Tories.

No person is going to bridge the gap.

so it will just forever be a moanfest from Labour supporters and it’s why the Tories continue to March forward however bad they are.
To be fair young Hammer, if you want a Centrist government vote for a centrist party. I want a Socialist government so I will not vote for a centrist party, I will vote for a party that reflects my views.

Voting least worst is negative democracy and as i believe in positive democracy then I will vote for a party that is Socialist or i will not vote at all and use my right to abstain.
 
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To be fair young Hammer, if you want a Centrist government vote for a centrist party. I want a Socialist government so I will not vote for a centrist party, I will vote for a party that reflects my views.

Voting least worst is negative democracy and as i believe in positive democracy then I will vote for a party that is Socialist or i will not vote at all and use my right to abstain.

but surely you would rather a centre left party than to live eternity under the Tories ?
 
To be fair young Hammer, if you want a Centrist government vote for a centrist party. I want a Socialist government so I will not vote for a centrist party, I will vote for a party that reflects my views.

Voting least worst is negative democracy and as i believe in positive democracy then I will vote for a party that is Socialist or i will not vote at all and use my right to abstain.
Unless Labour have reinstated clause four, (I don't know, they may have done),
then you're not actually voting for a socialist party. So the only one is your
preferred party, the communist party, who did not campaign last election, as they wanted Corbyn, which does tell you something.
Do they still exist by the way?
 
but surely you would rather a centre left party than to live eternity under the Tories ?
I want a Socialist party. There is no centre left party, there are centrist and RW parties and I will not vote for either.

If I want a Vindaloo, i am going to settle for a Korma, I may as well save my money and have a bacon butty.
 
Unless Labour have reinstated clause four, (I don't know, they may have done),
then you're not actually voting for a socialist party. So the only one is your
preferred party, the communist party, who did not campaign last election, as they wanted Corbyn, which does tell you something.
Do they still exist by the way?
If the Communist Party stood i would vote for them, I would also consider voting for the Workers Party and maybe even the Greens, as i identify more with them than i do with a RW Labour party.

Communist Party of Britain
 

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