Keir Starmer

At last, a Labour Party policy from the top.

Exactly what is needed to put political pressure on this horrific government to act in a similar fashion.
 
hilts said:
Okay let's add a dose of realism here. You will have an opinion and believe its well informed. You don't believe yourself to be stupid or easily led. I will feel exactly the same. Most people also see themselves that way.

To make life easier lets discuss something we agree on. We both think this govt is shite and needs getting rid of. But there will be lots of things we disagree on. Have I been brainwashed on those subjects? Has the media got me? Maybe I'm just stupid so my dislike for the tories must mean the tories are great coz I'm stupid.


The simple fact is self interest and stupidity will be present amongst all supporters of all parties. The media whether it is papers tv or the Internet is full of differing opinions. What are the majority doing? Can they not sell papers or work a phone. Are they incapable of selling their ideas?

Currently the majority of the population are to the left of this government. So I would be asking how is it possible they can have a huge majority. Where do the majority get there views from? It can't be the daily mail.

If a minority rules over the majority who are the daft ones allowing it to happen?

The opposition parties could get rid of them for a long time and make this country better for those who need help. To do it you need the biggest opposition parry onside. That is Labour and they won't do it.

So I shan't be voting for Labour or getting a semi when Starmer in opposition says he will do better. Any fucker can do that.
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So to sum up. Everyone has a different view. But most voters are to the left of this government (not difficult). But the Labour Party doesn't want to make this country better, so you won't vote for Labour.

A non voter then, blaming other voters for voting Tory?
 
Vic said:
So to sum up. Everyone has a different view. But most voters are to the left of this government (not difficult). But the Labour Party doesn't want to make this country better, so you won't vote for Labour.

A non voter then, blaming other voters for voting Tory?
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Green voter actually, and you completely missed the whole point thus confirming there are indeed stupid people across the whole spectrum.
 
hilts said:
Green voter actually, and you completely missed the whole point thus confirming there are indeed stupid people across the whole spectrum.
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The point was well disguised whatever it was.

As for stupid, you want to get rid of this shite government and will be voting Green. How does that work?
 
joe123 said:
Thought he was pretty good on Radio 4 this morning. Refreshing to hear concrete proposals, and even more refreshing to hear a politician who at least sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
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And covered his back on being missing in action by saying he'd asked colleagues (sorry, tasked colleagues) to come up with concrete proposals, and by not apologising for taking a family holiday. (He could have said "while the government takes a holiday from governing".)

And he got in "my father was a steelworker and my mother a nurse".
 
bluethrunthru said:
no. Just pointing out that whilst people are having am pop at Starmer at least today he is making a policy statement - Johnson is absent again.
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He is a lame duck, there is nothing left for him to do without asking his former minions for approval.

The decent thing would be to resign immediately and bring an end to the leadership contest.

I cannot imagine two weeks would make much difference to the voting numbers and result.
 
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