kaz7
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Anyway , starmer ?
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Bigga
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Okay, if you want to carry on with you make believe version of what happened,because of some weird agenda, carry on, makes no difference back in the real world.
What was the 'make believe' number of people that died?
For me, if there was a true reason to go to war, that would be more palatable than the lie sold that evidence had been seen.
The fact that a 'special relationship' with the US was the reason to go war, does not and should NOT sit well with me, nor should it anyone.
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Can somebody start a Blair thread and keep this to the point.
west didsblue
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Just ignore the fool.Thats total bollocks,he did many good things, in fact more than any other PM in my memory.Certainly more than any other Labour leader
Those deaths aren't on his hands there were many involved from many sides. Where does that figure even come from , does it take into account the lives saved over the last 20 yeas from from deposing a ruthless dictator, probably not , does it include blaming Blair for Isis terror deaths, you probably do that woult fit your anti Blair agenda.
Bigga
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For each of the first three points, he did so in full cooperation with the tories and the Tory press. Remember the LOTO receives much of the same intelligence briefs as the PM regarding matters of National security.
How many Tory MPs voted against the war? Not as many as Labour mps did.
your fourth point is one that can be levied at every single solitary Tory PM in history.
Ditto with your fifth point.
Apart from that, you’re right. Everything is labours fault and we must continue to vote for working and poor people to die this winter. That’s the caring thing to do.
Glad to see you agree they're all in it together, then...
Bigga
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Blair is a cocksucking warmongering twat. But he would walk the GE. Weird.
Accurate.
Shows the state of politics.
The man wants us to be digitised. He's been pushing for us to have digital ID, to be tracked in where we go and and linked to how we use 'money'. At least over the last 5 years he's been trying it on.
He's a ****.
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I don't know where did your hundreds of thousands come from , not very accurate is it you either have a number or you don't. I don't but I'm not trying to give a number. You seem to be so give a number and it's source then.What was the 'make believe' number of people that died?
For me, if there was a true reason to go to war, that would be more palatable than the lie sold that evidence had been seen.
The fact that a 'special relationship' with the US was the reason to go war, does not and should NOT sit well with me, nor should it anyone.
west didsblue
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Great speech yesterday.Anyway , starmer ?
His judgment over the last year has been spot on. He's not given the Tories or their client journalists anything at all they've managed to latch on to in spite of months of idiotic smears. The fact that so called "Beergate" was dredged up from over a year earlier was indicative of the desperation of the Tories and their supporters to drag him down.
Fortunately he's smart enough to stay above petty squabbles and I have little doubt he will maintain a steady course for Labour in the run up to an election whenever it is.
It does help him that the government keep demonstrating their ineptitude and venality in equal measure.
kaz7
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He came across very well yesterday , he is ready, all this he is boring is stupidity , you need a thinker not a buffonGreat speech yesterday.
His judgment over the last year has been spot on. He's not given the Tories or their client journalists anything at all they've managed to latch on to in spite of months of idiotic smears. The fact that so called "Beergate" was dredged up from over a year earlier was indicative of the desperation of the Tories and their supporters to drag him down.
Fortunately he's smart enough to stay above petty squabbles and I have little doubt he will maintain a steady course for Labour in the run up to an election whenever it is.
It does help him that the government keep demonstrating their ineptitude and venality in equal measure.
Bigga
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Thats total bollocks,he did many good things, in fact more than any other PM in my memory.Certainly more than any other Labour leader
Those deaths aren't on his hands there were many involved from many sides. Where does that figure even come from , does it take into account the lives saved over the last 20 yeas from from deposing a ruthless dictator, probably not , does it include blaming Blair for Isis terror deaths, you probably do that woult fit your anti Blair agenda.
I'm assuming you think all those hundreds of thousands that died were 'bad muslims' picked out by US/ NATO?
Do the 'lives saved' outweigh those that were lost? Sure Hussein was a twat, but since he did trade with the West until they decided he was not of use to them, who decides when he should go?
Also, if you're in a gang and one of that gang stabs to death the kid your gang was bullying, do you have blood on your hands too or do you just point the finger?