Keir Starmer

BigJoe#1 said:
Surely, what they are purporting to offer is what they will offer.... what makes you think it will be different? Not everyone is like Starmer.
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Because every time he is questioned on his proposed policies, he cannot explain how he will deliver it, citing either lack of experience or claiming he never said that ( Beth Rigby had him bangs to right on his NHS policy).

Farage is a pure grifter who is simply playing the game.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
ahhhhh... reminds me of those good old "we'll smash the gangs days".... Starmer = lots of talk, no plans, no method of delivery no action (except to bung a few extra million over the channel to his European friends (might be looking for a back door into the EU) ... just empty promises.
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I'm not giving credit to Starmer but, net migration is down under Labour. It could be the delayed results due to some of the policies the Tories implemented, nevertheless it's down.

Gangs, small boats etc. are up for sure but, haven't reached the peak level under the Tories. Plus, small boat migration is overplayed by Farage etc.
It accounts for less than 2% of total inward migration.
 
cookster said:
I'm not giving credit to Starmer but, net migration is down under Labour. It could be the delayed results due to some of the policies the Tories implemented, nevertheless it's down.

Gangs, small boats etc. are up for sure but, haven't reached the peak level under the Tories. Plus, small boat migration is overplayed by Farage etc.
It accounts for less than 2% of total inward migration.
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It's not about total inward migration, it's about illegal migration and the threats that that brings. Starmer said he was going to smash the gangs and he has had zero impact.... unilke the one in one out policy which seems to have withered on the vine.
 
cookster said:
I'm not giving credit to Starmer but, net migration is down under Labour. It could be the delayed results due to some of the policies the Tories implemented, nevertheless it's down.

Gangs, small boats etc. are up for sure but, haven't reached the peak level under the Tories. Plus, small boat migration is overplayed by Farage etc.
It accounts for less than 2% of total inward migration.
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Small boat crossings were around 35,000 in 2024 rose to 41,000 in 2025 net migration is down overall but it is controlled migration (visa’s etc.) think it is the irregular migration that is causing concern.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
It's not about total inward migration, it's about illegal migration and the threats that that brings. Starmer said he was going to smash the gangs and he has had zero impact.... unilke the one in one out policy which seems to have withered on the vine.
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Like I said I'm not giving Starmer credit but, what experience does Farage or Reform have to make it better.
Farage's track record is lying about the benefits of Brexit and leaving the country worse off as a result.
 
mosssideblue said:
All Farage has done is to pledge to fix all the country’s woes without having a clue how to do or pay for it, and some believe it.
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This thread amuses me for now.

It's like anything Labour say or do, is at worst well-intentioned if not successful, and other than that, fucking marvellous.

And yet any policy or comment from any other party is from the mouth of Satan.

In the spirit of fair and honest debate, do you not recognise the above (alleged) failings in Starmer? For if you do, seems odd to be attacking Farage over it. And if you do not, well, you must have been in a coma for the past few years.
 
Chippy_boy said:
This thread amuses me for now.

It's like anything Labour say or do, is at worst well-intentioned if not successful, and other than that, fucking marvellous.

And yet any policy or comment from any other party is from the mouth of Satan.

In the spirit of fair and honest debate, do you not recognise the above (alleged) failings in Starmer? For if you do, seems odd to be attacking Farage over it. And if you do not, well, you must have been in a coma for the past few years.
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Starmer and Labour have a mixed bag, some good, some bad. Farage hasn’t got any policies worth the paper they might be written on. Sadly, you’re falling for his sound bites
 
mosssideblue said:
Starmer and Labour have a mixed bag, some good, some bad. Farage hasn’t got any policies worth the paper they might be written on. Sadly, you’re falling for his sound bites
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Farage is just the toxic empty vessel dragging along the frauulent ex-tory.cunts who couldn't achieve anything in their own rights.

Bluster , bullshit and dishonesty is what Reform delivers with the chief grifter acting the part of Trump - lite, and cosying up to Putin.

And brainless fuckers in the electorate selling the UK out with their votes.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Farage is just the toxic empty vessel dragging along the frauulent ex-tory.cunts who couldn't achieve anything in their own rights.

Bluster , bullshit and dishonesty is what Reform delivers with the chief grifter acting the part of Trump - lite, and cosying up to Putin.

And brainless fuckers in the electorate selling the UK out with their votes.
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I thought this thread was about Starmer?
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Farage is just the toxic empty vessel dragging along the frauulent ex-tory.cunts who couldn't achieve anything in their own rights.

Bluster , bullshit and dishonesty is what Reform delivers with the chief grifter acting the part of Trump - lite, and cosying up to Putin.

And brainless fuckers in the electorate selling the UK out with their votes.
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There are very very many brainless fuckers (as you put it) in the UK

Could they not just be people who are fed up of being misled ?
 
cookster said:
Depends on the context, I'd quite happily call someone a cock to their face if I thought it was warranted.
Also, I can form an opinion of a person based on what they've posted over a number of years. I stand by my comments, thanks.
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I reckon you’d call someone a cock to their face if they were smaller and less intimidating.
 
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