Kelechi Iheanacho - 2016/17 Performances

[domalino]

Well there you go, maybe I'm just parroting media driven bullshit, maybe you are a member of the Cult of Pep FC and are deluded. Maybe it's neither, maybe we just have different opinions. I watch us every week and I know what I see, I don't expect you to agree with me on anything and that's fine, after all we all perceive the game differently. I realise that all successful clubs have a preferred way of playing but I also think plenty of them are able to win matches in different ways if need be. If you don't think Pep is absolutely devoted to certain principles of playing football then I'm surprised. The club itself (Soriano was it?) has stated certain principles in terms of way of playing football that we must stick to and presumably brought Pep in because he buys fully into those principles. What is that if it isn't dogmatic, idealisitic and without compromise? Only my opinion though, it's nice that you have *the* truth though.

So that's a no, you can't define it then?

And yes it's *the* truth that all of the best sides in Europe are committed to a single style of play because it's not a matter of opinion. Ancelotti isn't changing things weekly at bayern, Allegri has had the same exact style of play for 2 years at Juventus, Barcelona have been the same for 10 years, Monaco are absolutely dedicated to their style - Chelsea are completely dedicated to their way of playing too.

Can you name a single team that actually has a manager flip-flopping between different styles of play?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Just throwing on more strikers doesn't mean better finishing or more goals FFS. If that's really what you believe than I give up. Perhaps we should have kept Bony too and played 3, as that would have gotten us more goals.

Haha of course not but hes prepared to do it with Jesus and Aguero against boro. Just wasnt prepared to give kelechi that same oportunity. What bit of that are you struggling with?

Two games in last ten we have won in case you missed that fact.

Give it up domalino you have lost this one im affraid.

Sadly Pep doesnt rate young kelechi so he might as well move on. Perhaps if he ran arround more with no end product like a headless chicken ala navas or learnt to pass the ball endlessly sideways he would still be in with a chance lol.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

So that's a no, you can't define it then?

Emphasis very much on possession to an extreme degree and high line defence. That is how I would define what I have seen.

 

[domalino]

Haha of course not but hes prepared to do it with Jesus and Aguero against boro. Just wasnt prepared to give kelechi that same oportunity. What bit of that are you struggling with?

You mean apart from when Pep played Iheanacho and Aguero together vs. Southampton?

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Haha,this thread is comical.

Kelechi is a young lad with potential but also an awful lot to learn.He isnt currently good enough to be a starting player,as the opportunities he has been given have seen him largely anonymous.We have superior players who are keeping him out of the team,thats not Pep's fault.....its just the way it is......and no manager is going to change that just to appease a few unrealistic and hyperbolic supporters.

Those suggesting he is better than Rashford or Mbappe need to wake up,he really doesnt have their qualities at this moment in time and he certainly wouldnt be keeping them out of their respective sides.Hopefully we can find a suitable club willing to take him on loan where he can blossom into the kind of forward many predicted.

PeP FC....?? lol,do fuck off.

Kelechi over the past 2 years has shown enough that he should be entitled to some game time, far more than he has been given. When I say this, I compare him to some others in the team that have put in a number of turd performances but keep being given chances. I love Sane, but lets not kid ourselves, he put in more dire performances in the 1st 6 months he was at the club than Kelechi has in 2 seasons, yet he wasn't just cast aside. Sterling was horrendous last season and continues to please and infuriate in equal measures this year but still gets chances in the side. KDB over the past couple of months has been distinctly average in a number of games. Don't even get me started on Navas. So there we have 4 attacking players who have had a mixed bag of a season, yet all continue to get regular game time. Kelechi on the other hand gets minimal time on the pitch no matter what he does when he is on it. Coincidentally he just so happens to be the one we didn't pay any money for.

I am not saying Kelechi should be replacing any of the above on a regular basis, but I am sick of our manager bemoaning our finishing time and time again and yet never turns to the guy on the bench who scores goals for fun.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Kelechi over the past 2 years has shown enough that he should be entitled to some game time, far more than he has been given. When I say this, I compare him to some others in the team that have put in a number of turd performances but keep being given chances. I love Sane, but lets not kid ourselves, he put in more dire performances in the 1st 6 months he was at the club than Kelechi has in 2 seasons, yet he wasn't just cast aside. Sterling was horrendous last season and continues to please and infuriate in equal measures this year but still gets chances in the side. KDB over the past couple of months has been distinctly average in a number of games. Don't even get me started on Navas. So there we have 4 attacking players who have had a mixed bag of a season, yet all continue to get regular game time. Kelechi on the other hand gets minimal time on the pitch no matter what he does when he is on it. Coincidentally he just so happens to be the one we didn't pay any money for.

I am not saying Kelechi should be replacing any of the above on a regular basis, but I am sick of our manager bemoaning our finishing time and time again and yet never turns to the guy on the bench who scores goals for fun.

Precisely this!

 

[domalino]

Emphasis very much on possession to an extreme degree and high line defence. That is how I would define what I have seen.

Wow, could you be more vague? You've only described half the managers in Europe.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

And yes it's *the* truth that all of the best sides in Europe are committed to a single style of play because it's not a matter of opinion. Ancelotti isn't changing things weekly at bayern, Allegri has had the same exact style of play for 2 years at Juventus, Barcelona have been the same for 10 years, Monaco are absolutely dedicated to their style - Chelsea are completely dedicated to their way of playing too.

Can you name a single team that actually has a manager flip-flopping between different styles of play?

It isn't about flip flopping constantly between different ways of playing, it is about having alternatives, on occasion, when there is a need. Most good teams can play pretty stuff when they want, mix it up physically if they are in a battle or are prepared to sit in deep and soak up pressure when they have to. Christ even Wenger who has sacrificed winning things for years because he is so intransigent throws on a big striker from time to time. I do honestly think Pep sticks to specific principles more than most managers, I think he is incredibly intransigent. I think that is what makes him what he is and is exactly why the club wanted him.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Kelechi over the past 2 years has shown enough that he should be entitled to some game time, far more than he has been given. When I say this, I compare him to some others in the team that have put in a number of turd performances but keep being given chances. I love Sane, but lets not kid ourselves, he put in more dire performances in the 1st 6 months he was at the club than Kelechi has in 2 seasons, yet he wasn't just cast aside. Sterling was horrendous last season and continues to please and infuriate in equal measures this year but still gets chances in the side. KDB over the past couple of months has been distinctly average in a number of games. Don't even get me started on Navas. So there we have 4 attacking players who have had a mixed bag of a season, yet all continue to get regular game time. Kelechi on the other hand gets minimal time on the pitch no matter what he does when he is on it. Coincidentally he just so happens to be the one we didn't pay any money for.

I am not saying Kelechi should be replacing any of the above on a regular basis, but I am sick of our manager bemoaning our finishing time and time again and yet never turns to the guy on the bench who scores goals for fun.

He has generally scored tap ins and contributed little else.I just dont see the player youre describing and obviously,neither do the management team.As for the players you mention above,thats the usual apples and oranges stuff.

Hopefully,i'm proved wrong when he moves on this summer,and he comes back a player Pep cant ignore.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

You mean apart from when Pep played Iheanacho and Aguero together vs. Southampton?

Haha, when was that back in Oct wasnt it? That one chance they had to develop a partnership lol and we were doing better then wernt we ? Taking our chances more ? Since then its fair to say we have been missing chances left right and centre and been knocked out of everything or have i got that wrong too?