Kemi Badenoch - Elected Tory Leader

This really is not a good thing for the country. Getting on my centrist soap box for a second. We need an effective opposition in this country. One with salient counter-arguments to proposed government policy and one that can suggest their own policy ideas. Labour had many of their policies eventually adopted by the Tories while they were in opposition. Now they have an enormous majority and being held to account and challenged appropriately is important.

But instead we are consigned to 5 years of the opposition tub-thumping about irrelevant culture war nonsense and endless bleating about pronouns. Labour can do pretty much whatever they like on the economy knowing that the opposition can’t string a coherent argument together and has zero credibility. The arguments the Tories put out on the back of the budget were fucking woeful. There was so much they could have rightly contested for a budget that has numerous risks baked in but instead they chose to just make hyperbolic shit up, catastrophise, and develop more ridiculous soundbites. It seems like that’s all they can do these days.

I have no love for the Tories and I hope they are never in power again in my lifetime for what they have wrought, but I was really hoping they would see they have to completely change tack and try something new to attract younger voters again. But no, they seem determined to become completely irrelevant.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
This really is not a good thing for the country. Getting on my centrist soap box for a second. We need an effective opposition in this country. One with salient counter-arguments to proposed government policy and one that can suggest their own policy ideas. Labour had many of their policies eventually adopted by the Tories while they were in opposition. Now they have an enormous majority and being held to account and challenged appropriately is important.

But instead we are consigned to 5 years of the opposition tub-thumping about irrelevant culture war nonsense and endless bleating about pronouns. Labour can do pretty much whatever they like on the economy knowing that the opposition can’t string a coherent argument together and has zero credibility. The arguments the Tories put out on the back of the budget were fucking woeful. There was so much they could have rightly contested for a budget that has numerous risks baked in but instead they chose to just make hyperbolic shit up, catastrophise, and develop more ridiculous soundbites. It seems like that’s all they can do these days.

I have no love for the Tories and I hope they are never in power again in my lifetime for what they have wrought, but I was really hoping they would see they have to completely change tack and try something new to attract younger voters again. But no, they seem determined to become completely irrelevant.
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You are describing the other lot who with an 80 seat majority set about doing what they wanted with no thought of what damage they were doing because they were effectively unopposed.

We have to believe and hope a Labour Govt with a big majority will at least have some decency and a moral compass to not be a set of cunts
 
bluethrunthru said:
You are describing the other lot who with an 80 seat majority set about doing what they wanted with no thought of what damage they were doing because they were effectively unopposed.

We have to believe and hope a Labour Govt with a big majority will at least have some decency and a moral compass to not be a set of cunts
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I believe Labour would have to be unfathomably bad to be worse than the Tories when it comes to things like integrity.

My point is that all a poor opposition does is narrow the discourse over policy, which is pretty much never a good thing.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
This really is not a good thing for the country. Getting on my centrist soap box for a second. We need an effective opposition in this country. One with salient counter-arguments to proposed government policy and one that can suggest their own policy ideas. Labour had many of their policies eventually adopted by the Tories while they were in opposition. Now they have an enormous majority and being held to account and challenged appropriately is important.

But instead we are consigned to 5 years of the opposition tub-thumping about irrelevant culture war nonsense and endless bleating about pronouns. Labour can do pretty much whatever they like on the economy knowing that the opposition can’t string a coherent argument together and has zero credibility. The arguments the Tories put out on the back of the budget were fucking woeful. There was so much they could have rightly contested for a budget that has numerous risks baked in but instead they chose to just make hyperbolic shit up, catastrophise, and develop more ridiculous soundbites. It seems like that’s all they can do these days.

I have no love for the Tories and I hope they are never in power again in my lifetime for what they have wrought, but I was really hoping they would see they have to completely change tack and try something new to attract younger voters again. But no, they seem determined to become completely irrelevant.
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Isn’t the real point a wanky electoral system that lets a party with about a third of the popular vote doing what the fuck it wants for five years?
 
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