Key Bridge, Baltimore, has collapsed.

[Blue Mist]

It was nothing to do with gender, the ship suffered a brief power outage just before the bridge. So some sort of mechanical failure at completely the wrong time.

That's the point, the woman captain was tidying up and turning everything off that those 'bloody men' had left on.


Soz @normskih

 

[cleavers]

It shows how much the economy could be affected by the way Biden came out straight away and said were paying to fix it.

Biden (and trump) will be dead by the time they start rebuilding this bridge, it'll be years before they can, it's going to take months to reopen the port, never mind start building a bridge again.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Singapore is practically ChyNa, isn't it?

“It’s foreign” is enough for his mouth breathing troll cult who can’t find the United States on a map, let alone the speck of land that is Singapore on the other side of the globe!

 

[LWashington]

Looks like a really low budget album cover.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Biden (and trump) will be dead by the time they start rebuilding this bridge, it'll be years before they can, it's going to take months to reopen the port, never mind start building a bridge again.

I beg to differ. I think they’ll clear the high bridge section of debris as soon as the rescue-recovery-removal is complete and they’ll open the waterway. It’s too important to the jobs in the city and too much money would be lost by dilly-dallying on reopening the deep water channel.

I have no civil engineering background, but I did stay at Holiday Inn Express last night (a joke for the Americans!).

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Looks like a really low budget album cover.

For shit singer named Tex!

 

[cleavers]

I beg to differ. I think they’ll clear the high bridge section of debris as soon as the rescue-recovery-removal is complete and they’ll open the waterway. It’s too important to the jobs in the city and too much money would be lost by dilly-dallying on reopening the deep water channel.

They'll obviously open the port as soon as they can economically, but they'll have to clear the mess out of the way first, that'll probably need a salvage company. The ship will likely need refloating, it could be badly damaged under the water, then they'll have to do some serious checks under the water to make sure the channel is still viable, it may need dredging after several days/weeks with no ship movements as its tidal, so every 6 hours, water and sediment move back and forth, I don't know what the tidal spread is.

On the bridge rebuild, they'll still have the concrete piers to build on, so that could help.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

They'll obviously open the port as soon as they can economically, but they'll have to clear the mess out of the way first, that'll probably need a salvage company. The ship will likely need refloating, it could be badly damaged under the water, then they'll have to do some serious checks under the water to make sure the channel is still viable, it may need dredging after several days/weeks with no ship movements as its tidal, so every 6 hours, water and sediment move back and forth, I don't know what the tidal spread is.

On the bridge rebuild, they'll still have the concrete piers to build on, so that could help.

You sound like you have me at a disadvantage with your knowledge, so I’ll defer to you on the requirements for any reopening of the channel.

However, as the outer harbor bridge, it has shutdown a very active east coast port which will be doing everything in its power to open asap.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I beg to differ. I think they’ll clear the high bridge section of debris as soon as the rescue-recovery-removal is complete and they’ll open the waterway. It’s too important to the jobs in the city and too much money would be lost by dilly-dallying on reopening the deep water channel.

I have no civil engineering background, but I did stay at Holiday Inn Express last night (a joke for the Americans!).

That would be my thought. The central channel should be clearable reasonably quickly - well, as soon as a ship with a really big crane can get there.

 

[cleavers]

You sound like you have me at a disadvantage with your knowledge

I'm only going by what I can see to be honest, I'm certainly not an expert, so it's mostly commen sense.

Hoever it's a big ship, a quick google shows it extends nearly 40 feet below the waterline, fully loaded, so the channel is likely to be at least 60 feet below the bridge where the ship movements take place.

From the pictures of the remains of the bridge, most of the estuary doesn't look too deep, much of the bridge seems to be resting in fairly shallow water.

To get big ships in and out there will be a deeper channel as I mentioned above (it may not be the biggest ship that go into that port), and tides move a huge amount of water in and out of an estuary, and it's quite a wide one.

Now there are under water "structures" (the bridge damege) which will collect sediment until they can dredge the channel, and they are big structures impeding the flow (not mention the ship until they can move it).

 

[eyalluvitt]

Apparently the ship (and potentially crew) was previously involved in a collision incident in Antwerp in 2016.

Cargo ship that hit Baltimore bridge was involved in Antwerp collision in 2016

The Dali was reportedly detained in Belgium after scraping side of quay and significantly damaging part of hull in good weather

amp.theguardian.com

surely it’s not that hard to avoid two giant pillars covered in warning lights supporting a giant bridge, unless they let a woman steer it for a bet

 

[eyalluvitt]

 

[rickmcfc]

surely it’s not that hard to avoid two giant pillars covered in warning lights supporting a giant bridge, unless they let a woman steer it for a bet

The ship lost power twice before hitting the bridge. The pilots who were in charge stood no chance, hence dropping the anchors in a last ditch attempt to slow it down

 

[mackenzie]

I saw it on the news at about 7am this morning before I went to work. Just seen it now in "real time".....the one this morning must have been shown in slow motion.
Awful.
Thankfully a Mayday was put out, because that is horrific.

 

[jimharri]

What sort of distance would be required for a ship of that size, laden with that weight, going at whatever speed it was travelling, to change course sufficiently to avoid such a collision? And yes; I realise it's not like steering a Daewoo Matiz. The sheer weight of the vessel would be propelling it forward, making "steering" a very gradual process.

 

[Gray]

On the bridge rebuild, they'll still have the concrete piers to build on, so that could help.

One is definitely not up to the job, most of it is on the bow of the container vessel.

 

[cleavers]

What sort of distance would be required for a ship of that size, laden with that weight, going at whatever speed it was travelling, to change course sufficiently to avoid such a collision? And yes; I realise it's not like steering a Daewoo Matiz. The sheer weight of the vessel would be propelling it forward, making "steering" a very gradual process.

A lot more time than they had after the power loss ;-)

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

It's giving Brexit Jim a few ideas I bet.

How to demolish a load of steel scaffolding next to a canal on the cheap...

 

[MillionMilesAway]

What sort of distance would be required for a ship of that size, laden with that weight, going at whatever speed it was travelling, to change course sufficiently to avoid such a collision? And yes; I realise it's not like steering a Daewoo Matiz. The sheer weight of the vessel would be propelling it forward, making "steering" a very gradual process.

It's difficult to know as most stopping distances assume you can put engines to astern. And tides, etc. Also no-one really considers an inertial stop option.

It was doing 8 knots (I think this was said this morning) - but without power, about 1.5-2 miles nautical miles, I think.

Stopping Distance, Turning Circle, Ships Manoeuvring – Knowledge Of Sea

knowledgeofsea.com

has a ship half the length at 10 knots travelling 2 nautical miles.