Kia Joorabchian Talksport 12pm Thursday 26th.

Danny Hoekman said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Surely this has to be simple last minute brinksmanship?

The bottom line is it is in nobody's interests for him to be a City player next week.

Who will blink first? Us or Milan? Would we compromise with Milan and agree a loan fee, save a bit of face? Or do a deal with PSG?

Still think he'll be gone.

What a mess.
"save a bit of face"?????
There is no saving face for anyone in this saga.
 
Petetheblu said:
I'd have in back in a flash, don't give two hoots about what he's done or said. All I'm bothered about is winning the title, why wouldn't you want a world class striker at your club to help with the run in.

It's about thinking like a champion and a champion would take what ever edge he can get away with legally or illegally and I think Carlos would give us that edge now.

For the record I dislike what he's done as I thought he was a better person than that, but an apology and seven to ten goals would help me to forget. I'm fickle I know but I want to win and if that means swallowing my pride then fuck yes I'd swallow my pride. If bobby wanted him back then I would back roberto, if he doesn't then I wouldn't think twice about Tevez.


and do you really think he'd pull his tripes out for us? I think not.
 
Jasondh said:
There is a clause I've read about that states if a senior player who is fully fit is not played even though available after a period of time he gets to leave on a free.

I want to specifically address this as it's important.

There is a FIFA ruling known as Article 15 that states that any player who has not appeared in 10% of the games that he is eligible for has the option to walk in a summer transfer period.

This 10% though, is taken over the lifespan of his contract. Tevez will hit nowhere near this even if he doesn't play for City ever again.

The much more pressing concern from us is the Webster Ruling, which says that any player under 28 who has a contract signed more than 3 years ago will be eligible to leave for a small compensation dependent on future wages/earnings. If my timing is right, he SHOULD be able to take advantage of this in the summer shouldn't he? If we take his wages at £200k per week and he'll have two years on his deal, it will only personally cost him £21 million to buy his contract out.


:)
 
Calcio said:
what a great first question, if its not about money, why did the psg deal fall through lol

Then how much does tevez understand he has a contract, he's been wandering around argentina. bet you he didnt expect this

*cough ahem* great question ;)

Hamann Pineapple said:
Keys needs to ask him if it's "not about money" then why did the PSG deal break down over personal terms. That should start the ball rolling.

Wonder where he got that from ;)
 
Damocles said:
Jasondh said:
There is a clause I've read about that states if a senior player who is fully fit is not played even though available after a period of time he gets to leave on a free.

I want to specifically address this as it's important.

There is a FIFA ruling known as Article 15 that states that any player who has not appeared in 10% of the games that he is eligible for has the option to walk in a summer transfer period.

This 10% though, is taken over the lifespan of his contract. Tevez will hit nowhere near this even if he doesn't play for City ever again.

The much more pressing concern from us is the Webster Ruling, which says that any player under 28 who has a contract signed more than 3 years ago will be eligible to leave for a small compensation dependent on future wages/earnings. If my timing is right, he SHOULD be able to take advantage of this in the summer shouldn't he? If we take his wages at £200k per week and he'll have two years on his deal, it will only personally cost him £21 million to buy his contract out.


I think that only happens if you have been at a club long term..

eg. a few years ago there was talk of Richard Dunne buying out his contract when he was looking to leave City..


:)
 
You've made your bed Tevez, now you gotta lye in it. The damage has been done he's bad for team morale.

I don't want this tit anywhere near our club, and most importantly our players.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Surely this has to be simple last minute brinksmanship?

The bottom line is it is in nobody's interests for him to be a City player next week.

Who will blink first? Us or Milan? Would we compromise with Milan and agree a loan fee, save a bit of face? Or do a deal with PSG?

Still think he'll be gone.

What a mess.

A complete and utter mess ever since Munich in September. I'd rather freeze him out for as long as it takes as opposed to sending him on loan to Milan. We're within our rights to say no to anything other than a permanent deal and I want to make some money back on him.

Such a sad waste of a goal scoring talent.
 
Damocles said:
Jasondh said:
There is a clause I've read about that states if a senior player who is fully fit is not played even though available after a period of time he gets to leave on a free.

I want to specifically address this as it's important.

There is a FIFA ruling known as Article 15 that states that any player who has not appeared in 10% of the games that he is eligible for has the option to walk in a summer transfer period.

This 10% though, is taken over the lifespan of his contract. Tevez will hit nowhere near this even if he doesn't play for City ever again.

The much more pressing concern from us is the Webster Ruling, which says that any player under 28 who has a contract signed more than 3 years ago will be eligible to leave for a small compensation dependent on future wages/earnings. If my timing is right, he SHOULD be able to take advantage of this in the summer shouldn't he? If we take his wages at £200k per week and he'll have two years on his deal, it will only personally cost him £21 million to buy his contract out.


:)

There is also a gentlemans agreement that no top clubs will ever use this to buy a player. What thats worth is debatable but up to know this hasnt been used
 
I liked the bit when he was asked if he was being paid when he went back to argentina and he said "no, carlos is not the type to want to be paid if he's not playing, he could have stayed to train with the reserves and be paid but he's not like that". How very noble of him!.
 
bellamys dodgy knee said:
If we have to have him back, we cannot have him anywhere near the team..

Has anybody noticed that we dont get any press leaks about dressing room bust ups etc anymore ?..

All that stuff must have come from The Snake feeding bull to the press..

Not necessarily, Ian Wright loves to gob off and I think SWP might have unwittingly given him ammo from time to time. Bellamy wasn't afraid to say what he thought either - could have been a number of sources. The way I see it Tevez is a pretty despicable human being but the guy is one of the best players on the planet, last year much of our success was down to him. If he says im ready to play id play him. I believe that we would have won virtually all our games we have lost or drawn recently with him playing in the team. I hate to say it because it would be totally unjust for him to come back and us fans have to cheer him score (we wouldn't be able not to in the heat of the game), but he could win us the league.
 

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