Kicking off in Leicester

[Petethemancinleeds]

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Perfect response I've read some bizarre stuff on twitter etc especially this last week but this is off the scale, back 2 question time for some common sense, ......!

 

[Bill Walker]

That’s a lot of baloney right there mate. In your scenario then I’d fall on the British side so don’t worry about the bullet in the head but on the whole I’m not one bit patriotic. Grateful? Yeah, being born in England afforded me plenty of opportunity but that’s about it.
I suppose living away from being 17 so close to 30 years has shaped my life and beliefs. Not a quirk of nature.

It's funny but I too am grateful I was born and raised in England, I never really felt "Patriotic" though. The recent Royal funeral meant absolutely nothing to me.
My Grandad was Irish (Co Cork) and my Dads side came from Scotland. But I don't feel Scottish or Irish either.
I always wanted to live overseas growing up and ended up in California for 2 years but couldn't get the bloody green card when my visa ran out. I would've stayed there forever probably as I very much liked America.
After that I worked in S.E.Asia for a while for a company based in Singapore, then eventually ended up in Australia for the last 30 odd years.
There is a lot of patriotism in Australia, most Aussies love their country with an absolute passion. That patriotism has it's good points and its bad points. I'm not that keen on patriotism myself.
The world is a fantastic place with fantastic people, ofen you find the nicest people are in the poorest countries like Indonesia....no need for flag waving imo.

 

[Blue Mist]

You are Norman Tebbit and I claim my £5!

@5 Hit Gibbon I thought that was Prince now King Charles. It was a test match at the real Old Trafford.

 

[Blue Mist]

Famous saying by Norman Tebbit “ get on your bikes and look for work “ or something along those lines

@Bigg Bigg Blue close he was describing his parents from the North East who with hundreds of others were unemployed. They got on their bikes to look for work.

 

[Blue Mist]

You are all discussing patriotism and who they should support.
Sadly it has fuck all to do with that. It is about which god they support and because of that there is no rhyme or reason.
I remember many years ago 'terrorists' were hold up in the Golden Temple of Amristar. The other side stormed it, (can't be arsed googling which god was which) and Moss Side erupted. Sikhs v Muslims, thousands of miles from their parents birthplace, people were fighting each other because the army entered a holy site to arrest killers.

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

@5 Hit Gibbon I thought that was Prince now King Charles. It was a test match at the real Old Trafford.

From Wikipedia

"The cricket test, also known as the Tebbit test, was a controversial phrase coined in April 1990 by the British Conservative politician Norman Tebbit in reference to the perceived lack of loyalty to the England cricket team among South Asian and Caribbean immigrants and their children. Tebbit suggested that those immigrants who support their native countries rather than England at the sport of cricket are not significantly integrated into the United Kingdom"

 

[Bigg Bigg Blue]

@Bigg Bigg Blue close he was describing his parents from the North East who with hundreds of others were unemployed. They got on their bikes to look for work.

Thanks for that

 

[Blue Mist]

From Wikipedia

"The cricket test, also known as the Tebbit test, was a controversial phrase coined in April 1990 by the British Conservative politician Norman Tebbit in reference to the perceived lack of loyalty to the England cricket team among South Asian and Caribbean immigrants and their children. Tebbit suggested that those immigrants who support their native countries rather than England at the sport of cricket are not significantly integrated into the United Kingdom"

Corrected I stand :-)

 

[andyhinch]

Corrected I stand :-)

Morning Yoda

 

[FantasyIreland]

Too right! People who aren’t patriotic (not nationalistic… patriotic) are suspect fuckers in my eyes, not to be trusted one bit! They’re the sort of people who’d shoot you in the back of the head if we were ever end up in WW3 with Russia because they sympathise with the Russians and blame NATO for everything.

I’m not even a big England football fan (especially compared to City) but I’m very British-ly patriotic. I love it when you go to other countries and see how patriotic they are: Greece, Turkey, Italy… it’s something I really respect about other countries, and I always think it’s a shame when we have people who aren’t here. Some actively dislike the place, there are immigrants who are more patriotic about Britain than some natives, and many who are certainly more appreciative!

A lot of the time it’s because they don’t understand the distinction between patriotism and nationalism and are worried they’ll be judged about being nationalistic if they show any patriotism. Other times it’s because they’re just so friggin miserable that they’d be better of just bloody emigrating elsewhere.

Spot on.

Anyone who chooses to be loyal to another country ahead of the one that they were born and live in,one which helps feed and support them.....is of highly suspect character.
I'm not asking for Union Jack T shirts.....just a basic level of respect and patriotism,and,somewhat more drastic......but to also answer the call of duty should the need ever arise.

Its akin to marrying a bird because she does your cooking and washing while popping out a few times a week to shag another.