Kill The Christians

[MCFCTrick]

You've not got the hang of this thread starting lark bluemanc.

It should have been about genocide, apartheid and ethnic cleansing involving Israel, then it'd be 100 pages by now. Oddly enough, for one of the very few countries in the Middle East probably the only one, where you are free to practice your religion, whatever that is, it gets criticised disproportionately.

Yet if you're not a Muslim or even the wrong sort of Muslim in most other countries then you're fair game. An old pal of mine grew up as a Catholic in Pakistan and his family had to leave because they didn't feel safe. That was in the 1970's so it's been going on a while.

I'm not religious anymore but it sickens me that people who simply want to worship their God (or even the same God) in a different way, face persecution and even death for doing so.

We also talk about learning the lessons of the Holocaust but clearly no one has.

Well said that man! No doubt an apologist will come along soon, for the usual damage limitation exercise...[/quote

Agreed.

 

[DelToro]

Sad seeing Christians having to seek refuge in that Iraq Monastery.
Christian Genocide in the Middle East is a grim reality.

Not particularly a "genocide" as that word means a specific thing. More like various fascist Islamic factions hate Christians and will kill them if the opportunity arises. If anything it's a Christian diaspora as most of the Christians of the affected regions have fled; it's your bog standard religious hatred rather than any organised genocide.

Basically they aren't getting killed specifically because they're Christian but specifically because they are of another religion.

Oh right. That'll make all the difference then. It is because they're Christian. Dress it up with whatever intellectual play of words you want. The bottom line is it's because they're Christian.

So there are no Muslims being killed then?

 

[Gelsons Dad]

It is genocide. As for the other religions being systematically murdered that too is genocide.

 

[omcfc]

Yazidis, Christians and Shia/Sunni muslims, depending on which muslim faction is holding the gun at the time. Usually Sunni as they are 90% of muslims. This is what happens when your holy book has verses commanding violence, and some followers view it as the infallible and literal word of their god. Sad, the region could be so much better.

 

[Damocles]

Sad seeing Christians having to seek refuge in that Iraq Monastery.
Christian Genocide in the Middle East is a grim reality.

Not particularly a "genocide" as that word means a specific thing. More like various fascist Islamic factions hate Christians and will kill them if the opportunity arises. If anything it's a Christian diaspora as most of the Christians of the affected regions have fled; it's your bog standard religious hatred rather than any organised genocide.

Basically they aren't getting killed specifically because they're Christian but specifically because they are of another religion.

Oh right. That'll make all the difference then. It is because they're Christian. Dress it up with whatever intellectual play of words you want. The bottom line is it's because they're Christian.

No, it's because they're not a specific brand of Muslim. There's a difference between the two.

 

[Zuriblue]

So there are no Muslims being killed then?

Many. When it's IS that's involved it's the Shias that are getting hammered as IS is Wahabbi Sunni. Basically Saudi.

Shia militias are pretty bloodthirsty as well but it's the Sunnis that mainly export this crap.

I've worked extensively in the Middle East and most Muslims would like the radicals of all stripes to just fuck off back to hell.

 

[kas_tippler]

Any Jedi's been put to the sword?

 

[101toMR]

The basic principle is that if you are a Muslim and are insulted because you pray then you are insulted because you're a Muslim.
But if you are killed because you are a Christian it's not really because you are a Christian it's because you are different. Whilst this is in some part true, the same reasoning should be used to explain the Muslim prayer.

 

[SWP's back]

You've not got the hang of this thread starting lark bluemanc.

It should have been about genocide, apartheid and ethnic cleansing involving Israel, then it'd be 100 pages by now. Oddly enough, for one of the very few countries in the Middle East probably the only one, where you are free to practice your religion, whatever that is, it gets criticised disproportionately.

Yet if you're not a Muslim or even the wrong sort of Muslim in most other countries then you're fair game. An old pal of mine grew up as a Catholic in Pakistan and his family had to leave because they didn't feel safe. That was in the 1970's so it's been going on a while.

I'm not religious anymore but it sickens me that people who simply want to worship their God (or even the same God) in a different way, face persecution and even death for doing so.

We also talk about learning the lessons of the Holocaust but clearly no one has.

What bollocks. What about UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait and Qatar? Which is a huge amount of the Middle East.

Unlike Pakistan, which isn't.

 

[Deleted member 58619]

You've not got the hang of this thread starting lark bluemanc.

It should have been about genocide, apartheid and ethnic cleansing involving Israel, then it'd be 100 pages by now. Oddly enough, for one of the very few countries in the Middle East probably the only one, where you are free to practice your religion, whatever that is, it gets criticised disproportionately.

Yet if you're not a Muslim or even the wrong sort of Muslim in most other countries then you're fair game. An old pal of mine grew up as a Catholic in Pakistan and his family had to leave because they didn't feel safe. That was in the 1970's so it's been going on a while.

I'm not religious anymore but it sickens me that people who simply want to worship their God (or even the same God) in a different way, face persecution and even death for doing so.

We also talk about learning the lessons of the Holocaust but clearly no one has.

very well said