Kolarov and Johnson, the key to winning the league

I dont think the key to winning the league has much to do with selection and not a great deal to do with tactics. Its all about having the right attitude away from home.

We have the best team, the best squad, the best players. We can play a number of systems and formations better than our opponents. We just need to avoid any more Everton type defeats.
 
Bollocks.

Johnson is and will continue to prove nothing but a passenger, a flat-track, one-trick pony against the lesser sides.

He had me fooled. When he first came in I thought he reminded me of Giggs.

He has failed to take any of the opportunities Bobby has afforded him this season and his decision making seems to have got worse?

Sick to fucking death of the same routine, cutting in on his left to shoot, even when the outside route is on.

Even when he goes outside, he's more looking for a penalty than a bloody team-mate.

Frustrating player, has even started to bottle 50/50 challenges. At least two examples of it against Blackburn.
 
I agree with everything you say about Johnson but he is a useful squad player giving us something different on the wing. I can't help but feel that if Johnson wasn't a City player, Bellamy would be.
 
Damocles said:
I agree with everything you say about Johnson but he is a useful squad player giving us something different on the wing. I can't help but feel that if Johnson wasn't a City player, Bellamy would be.


Don't, you'll depress me!

I actually think Nasri has similar pace and defensive levels as Johnson.

For that reason, and Nasri's superior ball retention and decision making, I would like to see us try Nasri out on that right hand side.

Saw him score a wonderful goal for Arsenal coming in off that right hand touch line....imagine this....Aguero and co have a field day


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuf_8JjdVG8[/youtube]
 
AJ is not effective on the right wing if asked to cross balls into the centre due to him being so left footed. Unlike Silva, AJ doesn't look and assess his surroundings first before recieving the ball, putting pressure on himself in his decision making once he has the ball. His football brain is not quick enough to know what the best option is. There is no doubt he has the ability to take a man on, but the majority of times he does this down a blind alley, or is attempting to draw the tackle of a defender to win a foul either inside or outside the box. The quickness in our play is more suited to getting the ball into a dangerous position directly from open play when the defense is stretched and on the backfoot, not allowing them time to regroup to defend a set piece. The skill of our forwards (and this goes for ALL of them Kun, Mario and Edin and the Dog) is they can finish in one touch from different deliveries (deep crosses, cut backs, through balls and second ball rebounds). We have the deliveies from through balls from Silva, Yaya, Nasri etc, and cut backs generally come from overlapping full backs or midfielders like Milner running onto the byline. What we need more of, is hard, fast, flat (not looping)crosses from deep, that prevent the opposing GK from coming for. Kolarov is the best in our squad for delivering these, but he hasn't been consistant enough. SWP was guilty of this years ago, but he practised and practised and got more consistant with it. We need to see more consistancey from both Kolarov and Johnson over the rest of the season or we replace them for next year. AJ has not progressed or improved at the rate Mancini has required in my opinion. We have many players in our squad that can take a man on (even Micah has improved in that area) so that skill from AJ doesn't add anything new for the team. But as Mancini constantly says, "eez a young player, ee can improve" but how much longer do we wait?

To bring out the very best from Dzeko, we need the option and execution of great crosses in, at the moment, the consistancey of the quality req is not there from either wing and its either a case of more training ground practice or get in the talent that can do it. I can only see the standard that is required coming from the likes of Valencia at United.
 
nashark said:
ello_jo said:
United are better against lesser teams from what point? Theyve been pretty shit against the lesser teams all year.

Just an opinion, but I can't see their challenge falling shot because they failed to beat a shit team, whereas that would be my fear with us. Hence the emphasis on the importance of Kolarov and Johnson.

In addition to my op, Johnson's absence last winter further demonstrates what he can bring, because iirc, we were struggling to score around that period.
Blackburn at home? 3-2 loss
 
the key to success is mancini deciding his best 11 and playing them until the end now,
look back at other champions, am sure they dont tinker about on the running
 
Jumanji said:
Dax777 said:
I agree both have played well recently, but disagree with the OP's arguments. I don't think either player is consistent, thus hoping they are the key is perhaps a dangerous proposition.

Kolarov was great last week, but lets be honest hear, that is not the average Kolarov. That is Kolarov having a blinder. And that happens to everyone sometimes. The key is to figure out what the average expectations are, based on how well they have played on average. Kolarov has been below par in most games.

Both defensively and offensively. I know the great game last week has got many proclaiming his superior offensive input vis a vis Clichy. But this is a fallacy. He makes so many mistakes offensively, and gives up possession (something we cherish in our style) way more often than Clichy does. His crosses, which were amazing this weekend, have over the course of the season, been inferior to Clichy's. Who himself isn't a great crosser.

Yes, he can whip a mean cross, and yes he can hit a mean shot. But his consistency is atrocious at both. Lets not confuse the beauty of his best efforts, for his mode efforts. Without knowing who is hot or not in practice (seeing as I am not there) based on performances in the shirt, I'd always pick Clichy unless he has played midweek or is nursing an injury. He is just a superior footballer to Kolarov. PERIOD!

As for AJ, yes he can beat a man, but often to no avail. He doesn't cross much, and his style suggests he wouldn't even if he were on the left. He just doesn't play the whip the ball in style, no matter the wing. I have seen a host of players playing on the inverted wing and still whip in mean balls after a switch to the superior foot. AJ's just doesn't do this. And worse still of all our players who play wide, he is the worst at feeding a FB who overlaps him. Can't count how many times he wasted Zaba as an option last week. Zaba was frustrated on one of the misses. He just diddles on the ball too long, and takes too long to see the play.

He too, cannot be key to our success.

However, I agree with the OP's overall assessment that an improvement in stretching the field wide will be key to us winning the league. I do however disagree on the personnel choices to achieve this end.

In my opinion, Yaya switching field like a pendulum, and Pizzzaro's searching pass to an overlapping FB in stride are the real keys. get the ball to an open and wide fullback and you are likely to see more crosses into the box, and more Dzeko, Balo and Aguero attacking the goal area.

The key isn't the crosser, but the guys who are able to find the crossers early and often.
I agreed with nearly every single world.
Ha! Found the word you disagree with :)
 
The key to winning the league this season barring injury or suspension is by playing this team

Hart
Richards
Kompany
Lescott
Clichy
Barry
Nasri
Silva
Yaya
Aguero
Balotelli

Neither Johnson nor Kolorov have been consistant enough to prove to me otherwise. I'll admit Kolorov has been decent for the last couple of games but to be honest against Blackburn with the amount of time and space he had on that left hand side, I'm pretty sure I would have been able to put 2 decent crosses in.

As others have mentioned, Johnson is now showing us all why Mancini has given him a lot of criticism. He just seems to have lost everything that made him stand out when he first signed for us.
 
lancs blue said:
dax77 said:
His crosses, which were amazing this weekend, have over the course of the season, been inferior to Clichy's. Who himself isn't a great crosser.

I'm not sure what you mean by "inferior" but with 6 assists to zero so far Kolarov's crosses are a hell of a lot more effective.
Perhaps. I guess there is more than one way to look at their stats.
Clichy has connected on 15 of his 51 crosses
Kolarov has connected on 13 of his 61 crosses. This suggests Clichy is much more accurate at finding his target.

But one could also conclude he takes fewer risks, and thus gains fewer results. As Kolarov does put in more crosses per game, and this has led to actual goals, even though he is "inferior" to Clichy at finding a target with his crosses.

In the end, I guess how often you attempt a cross, and create tension in an oppositions area may be a more valuable statistic. And Kolarov does that on the average more often than Clichy.
 

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