Kurt Zouma | Fined £250k by club and cats removed by RSPCA

West Ham manager David Moyes says he is a "human being and an animal lover" but "responsible for getting results"
So there you have it. In simple terms, I consider animal welfare completely irrelevant when compared with the need for three points. Utterly shameful.
It’s amazing that people thought that there would be any other approach.
 
The cons list above is frankly pathetic. We can dismiss the environment and tubbies points as being irrelevant to this discussion (as well you know, since you were making a "moral" point about killing animals).

So that leaves us with, "because we don't have to?" Is that your best shot?

Is watching football wrong? Because we don't have to do that either. I am yet to hear why it's wrong, morally or otherwise.

Anyway, enough of this. This thread is about Zouma, is it not.

Kill an animal
Watch football

You have gone stark raving mad

Yes let's leave it
 
Similar fucked up whataboutery to getting upset about an animal being kicked, but not about millions being slaughtered, intensively farmed and eaten. We are a strange hypocritical species for sure.

I have no problem with us killing animals to eat. I have a problem with beating an animal you don't plan on eating because you think it's funny and forcing the animal to live with you so you can do it whenever you want. Personally I don't think that's hypocrisy but if you disagree then I can't imagine I'm going to change your mind.
 
That’s because we have learned that dogs can offer other benefits to us other than eating them (except for certain parts of the world) through work, companionship or entertainment. And also other food is readily available from animals less able to do such things. It’s not really that odd. As for actually killing the animal for one’s own food, this was still commonplace up to the last war with chickens for example.
My Great Grandad used to sell live chickens on Sheffield Market back in the late 1800’s, if he had any unsold he used to take them home and kept in the house until next Market Day.
 
I was listening to Simon Jordan yesterday on this ( Yes he's a **** ) basically every single phone call in said he should be sacked, Ex Liverpool/Sheff Weds goalie Chris Kirkland phones in too to say the same, Jordan does say is there no way whatsoever that Kurt can Redeem himself, Bearing in mind what footballers and members of this station ( Who I like he stated) have done, I'm assuming he's going on about Drink driving charges. Kirkland, "No , He can't come back from this, Career over" He was trying to put a case up for Zouma was Jordan knowing some footballers have been brought back into the fold after bad shit.
Jordan didn’t say that, he said everyone in this Country gets the chance of redemption and Zouma shouldn’t be excluded.

Btw, Kirkland is a thick as fuck Dipper.
 
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What a ridiculous statement and I doubt you have any evidence. Did you know, probably the most evil person in history, Hitler, was devoted to his dog Blondi. Along with Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Kim un Jon, Escobar, Saddam Hussain and plenty of others they loved their animals more than the people they were supposed to lead, that is one bollocks of a subjective post.
Firstly, not for one minute am I suggesting that Zouma will go on to mistreat a person btw.
I have no evidence to back up my subjective post other than the words of police profilers and clinical psychologists who analyse people who HAVE.
To show no empathy for a living creature is a bad trait. (Apart from that wasp I killed last summer by giving it a wallop across its suede with a rolled up newspaper)
 
So fuck the optics then? Expediency over doing the right thing, both a couple of cunts then.

Didn't Foden cheat on his wife a few months ago ? are you outraged that Pep played him shortly after? surely that is disgusting! or are you judge and juror of where the moral line is drawn

I've already stated Zouma deserves some form of punishment and it's a police issue - Moyes job is to win games and he picks the best players to do that - if he dropped him yesterday it would still be a major talking point and disrupt the team
 

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