Kyle Walker

[BringBackSwales]

I seriously doubt that we will ever be as chaotic and reckless as the chavs have been under their new yank owners.

Not saying that they won't ever get it right, but fucking hell they are a total shitshow at present, and if they escape FFP sanctions it will be a miracle imo.

Watching this coming season with interest and a certain amount of contempt for them and pleasure if it goes tits up, due to that **** Rudiger and his assault on KDB.

They will escape sanctions because they are American owned and the premier league is now close to being an American cartel, nothing to do with probity

 

[BringBackSwales]

chelsea liverpool united madrid arsenal and barcelona can all do what they want with uefa and the football authorities in their countries; juventus could as well but for having pissed on uefas chips with the super league. Corrupt conspiring cunts

 

[PragueBlue]

Kind of symbolic to see us caring so much about keeping Walker (whom I like a lot!) at the same time we see Chelsea signing yet another special player for the future. There’s a good chance we could be playing catch up with them in a few years.

Let me guess. Chelsea have just signed a young Brazilian that you rate highly ;-)

I've no idea how Chelsea will do over the next few seasons but I think I'd rather stick with our strategy to be honest. It has served us very well in terms of trophies and seen us bring in very highly rated young talent like Haaland, Alvarez and Gavrdiol in the last 12 months and I'm sure there will be more to come over the next few windows. We also have some highly rated talent of our own coming through the academy.

 

[BrazilianGus]

Let me guess. Chelsea have just signed a young Brazilian that you rate highly ;-)

What’s that supposed to mean? I have also told that some Brazilian players signed by some English clubs recently are nothing special, and the same goes for players of other nationalities. There is zero bias involved

My point is they’re signing for the future whereas we are very much looking at solving the present. I suspect their future will be rather bright

 

[Coatigan]

What’s that supposed to mean? I have also told that some Brazilian players signed by some English clubs recently are nothing special, and the same goes for players of other nationalities. There is zero bias involved

My point is they’re signing for the future whereas we are very much looking at solving the present. I suspect their future will be rather bright

Which is why we are the treble holders and threepeat winners in the present, and Chelsea may (or may not) win trophies in the future. While possibly failing ffp. I am more than happy with that situation.

 

[PragueBlue]

What’s that supposed to mean? I have also told that some Brazilian players signed by some English clubs recently are nothing special, and the same goes for players of other nationalities. There is zero bias involved

My point is they’re signing for the future whereas we are very much looking at solving the present. I suspect their future will be rather bright

We look at the present and the future, which seems a more sensible strategy. Hence signing young players that are among the world's best like Haaland, Alvarez and Gvardiol, bringing through our own academy players, as well as hoping to keep fantastic players like Walker (who can still make a contribution) and Bernardo etc.

Chelsea's approach was a bit of a disaster last season. Maybe it will pay off for them in the long-term, maybe not. I'm fairly convinced ours is the right approach for us though.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

What’s that supposed to mean? I have also told that some Brazilian players signed by some English clubs recently are nothing special, and the same goes for players of other nationalities. There is zero bias involved

My point is they’re signing for the future whereas we are very much looking at solving the present. I suspect their future will be rather bright

In the first team squad this season, City have:

Nine 18-21 year olds
Four 22-25 year olds
Thirteen 26-29 year olds
Three 30-33 year olds
And one at 33+.

 

[halfcenturyup]

In the first team squad this season, City have:

Nine 18-21 year olds
Four 22-25 year olds
Thirteen 26-29 year olds
Three 30-33 year olds
And one at 33+.

I don't see why his point is controversial to be honest. Chelsea are buying a lot of young talent in what seems to be a departure from the Abramovic years which, iirc, was more about buying experienced players financed by a good academy (and non-interest bearing loans and fraudulent agent transactions, apparently). It's an alternative to what City are doing and it may pay off in the future.

But really, @BrazilianGus, for your own sanity, let some things go. Someone calls you a ****, forget it. Who cares? The person who called you a **** is very likely a **** too. If you start arguing you aren't a ****, some other **** will chip in calling you a ****. It is what it is.

I was happy to see you back, you give interesting insights, even if you have a habit of thinking you are always right. But it's all good. Relax.

 

[bell_mcfc]

Think we would have seen movement here if he was going. He either stays on this contract and we plan a replacement for next summer or signs for an extra year or two.

 

[PragueBlue]

I don't see why his point is controversial to be honest. Chelsea are buying a lot of young talent in what seems to be a departure from the Abramovic years which, iirc, was more about buying experienced players financed by a good academy (and non-interest bearing loans and fraudulent agent transactions, apparently). It's an alternative to what City are doing and it may pay off in the future.

I don't think anybody took issue with that point (though they might disagree, as do I), which he made on another, more appropriate thread too.

My main problem with his posts on this thread (the Kyle Walker thread) is that he came on it to imply that Chelsea's strategy of buying young talent contrasts positively with our approach of trying to solve the present (in his words) by trying to get Walker to sign a new deal.

The reality of course is different, as I pointed out. We deal with the present AND also the future. Haaland, Alvarez, Gvardiol are all huge talents that are still very young. We have also signed other young, talented players such as Perrone and Gomez. We have very good, young players coming through our academy too. To suggest that we are not focused on the future is frankly ludicrous.

We are both in different positions and so approaches will naturally differ. We already have an excellent squad and are looking to add world class (or thereabouts) players with the right profile to maintain our position at the top. We will also potentially take a few risks on young players that may come good. Chelsea have no European football and so are taking a more risky strategy overall. Maybe it will pay off for them, maybe it won't but the Chelsea strategy would make little sense for us and may well see them also fail FFP (if the Chelsea thread on the General Football forum is anything to go by).

If he prefers the Chelsea scattergun approach, then I have no problem with that (though I would disagree) but to come on this thread and imply that, in comparison, we are being short-sighted by trying to get Walker to sign a new deal, just seemed a bit ridiculous and without any basis in reality.