Kylian Mbappe

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Dembele played better yesterday but the more intelligent one was Mbappe. I agree with Callum Ramsey that he might not be a once in s generation player. Its hard to judge those things. But he is pretty fanned phenomenal.

Oh while I'm at the truth, I know this isn't going to be popular, but Pogba looked pretty fanned fantastic too. I know many here pretend he is shit (in fairness, most do), but for my money I believe he is good g to be one of those problems we'd have to deal with for a long time.

Hope we can get Mbappe on board. Lets give them something to worry about too. :)
 
Dax777 said:
Dembele played better yesterday but the more intelligent one was Mbappe. I agree with Callum Ramsey that he might not be a once in s generation player. Its hard to judge those things. But he is pretty fanned phenomenal.

Oh while I'm at the truth, I know this isn't going to be popular, but Pogba looked pretty fanned fantastic too. I know many here pretend he is shit (in fairness, most do), but for my money I believe he is good g to be one of those problems we'd have to deal with for a long time.

Hope we can get Mbappe on board. Lets give them something to worry about too. :)
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Don't do that mate I was once flamed by like 10 people here for praising Pogba. You cannot praise Utd's player cause that'd make you a rag apparently.
 
Callum Ramsey said:
Outside of Juventus and PSG where he got 1 goal in 3 games. What top class defence has he come against. He played and scored against a city team with stones and otamendi (team's worst defensive pairing) at the back and a dortmund defence with players you'd struggle to name besides that all his other goals has been against ligue 1 teams. He's very talented and I've noted that in almost every post I've made about him, but there's a difference between that talent translating into consistent performances over several seasons. I hesitate to go over the board about any young player regardless of how talented they look off the back off 1 good season especially if its their breakthrough one as I've seen far too many times how quickly things can change in their second seasons once teams are more aware of their strengths and what moves and play they tend to favor and make thus make adjustments for. I was like that with kane and alli a couple of seasons ago and Martial 2 seasons ago where he was the one getting the same kind of appraise from the media and fans that Mbappe is getting now. I happen to consider top class players those who've done it at a consistent level for several seasons against top class opposition hence why I listed gotze as the only young player probably of the last decade who could genuinely be labelled top class and a 'once in a generation' talent when he was just 19.
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This kind of argument doesn't work though. He scored against Juventuss. A team no one else could score against until he did. He scored against Dortmund, against City.

Saying he didn't play any top defense isn't a legitimate argument for me, he played 5 top teams and scored against 4 of them. That is a pass with flying colors under any rule. No granular analysis or reduction needed. At 18 he is a fantastic Striker. And likely to only get better.

The over hype is a function of him being this good this young. And it is based on smarts, technique and movement ( rather than say strictly speed or unusual ). So the likelihood of success is very high.
 
Dax777 said:
I am often ashamed to say it, but its not even close. Mbappe by a mile.
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For me too. Mbappe over anyone. Only injury can stop him, and the team he signs for being the best in their league. Unfortunately, I think he'll just sit and wait for Real Madrid.
 
mavsmcfc said:
Don't do that mate I was once flamed by like 10 people here for praising Pogba. You cannot praise Utd's player cause that'd make you a rag apparently.
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Pogba is a good player. 90 million though to basically put him in midfield and tell him to watch the ball being hoofed over his head up to Fellaini or a speedy young lad on the wing.
He looked good in a french team that tried to play football. But the England midfield let him have free reign too. He had far too much space and time.

Hopefully Mourinho will keep frustrating the shit out of him next season, because he's a lot better than the use they've got out of him.
 
Dax777 said:
Dembele played better yesterday but the more intelligent one was Mbappe. I agree with Callum Ramsey that he might not be a once in s generation player. Its hard to judge those things. But he is pretty fanned phenomenal.

Oh while I'm at the truth, I know this isn't going to be popular, but Pogba looked pretty fanned fantastic too. I know many here pretend he is shit (in fairness, most do), but for my money I believe he is good g to be one of those problems we'd have to deal with for a long time.

Hope we can get Mbappe on board. Lets give them something to worry about too. :)
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Well though Pogba played he was up against very poor opponents. England's midfield was about as weak as I can ever remember.
 
Marvin said:
For me too. Mbappe over anyone. Only injury can stop him, and the team he signs for being the best in their league. Unfortunately, I think he'll just sit and wait for Real Madrid.
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He will. But a fanned good consplation price could have been Dembele. He was a 15 million buy last year :(
 
Glad we didn't sign Pogba he looks good when given space but lost in Prem League

Would be absolutely giddy if we signed Mbappe, watch his style and you cannot help but see what a player he currently is and what a player he will become.
 
Dax777 said:
He will. But a fanned good consplation price could have been Dembele. He was a 15 million buy last year :(
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France were very impressive. I read that Bayern are buying a French midfielder from Lyon so it looks like they have another good young team coming through.
 
Marvin said:
For me too. Mbappe over anyone. Only injury can stop him, and the team he signs for being the best in their league. Unfortunately, I think he'll just sit and wait for Real Madrid.
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I agree, this lad looks very much the real deal - like Rooney did when he first broke on the scene. Whoever gets him has got a top class striker they may have leading the line for the next 10 years. I hope it's us
 
The problem City have is that MBappe was identified as a target for next Summer (2018), but because now everyone wants him, we may need to go for him early. So its understood as its not a Sanchez or Mbeppe, its can we do both this summer. Financially, of course we can. Can we integrate so many new players into the squad? I could see Pep managing a season with Jesus, Kun, Sanchez and poss Kelechi, but could he add Mbappe in with Sanchez, Kun and Jesus. Mouth-watering for us, and no doubt we would have thee best strike force in the world (ahead of Suarez Messi and Neymar) but could we keep all them 4 happy? or would we have to sacrifice Kun to have the other 3? Im not advocating getting rid of anyone here, im simply throwing up the scenario for discussion
 
Bellamy's Caddy said:
I agree, this lad looks very much the real deal - like Rooney did when he first broke on the scene. Whoever gets him has got a top class striker they may have leading the line for the next 10 years. I hope it's us
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Me too, but I don't hold out much hope. The secret is well and truly out now. As long as he doesn't end up at Man Utd I don't mind. I am sure they will be bidding £100m plus for him. If you had their money, you'd at least try it on.
 
Graceyboy said:
The problem City have is that MBappe was identified as a target for next Summer (2018), but because now everyone wants him, we may need to go for him early. So its understood as its not a Sanchez or Mbeppe, its can we do both this summer. Financially, of course we can. Can we integrate so many new players into the squad? I could see Pep managing a season with Jesus, Kun, Sanchez and poss Kelechi, but could he add Mbappe in with Sanchez, Kun and Jesus. Mouth-watering for us, and no doubt we would have thee best strike force in the world (ahead of Suarez Messi and Neymar) but could we keep all them 4 happy? or would we have to sacrifice Kun to have the other 3? Im not advocating getting rid of anyone here, im simply throwing up the scenario for discussion
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Just about convinced that Sanchez is a player you have to go for. Mbappe definitely is. But Sanchez is a realistic target. I am not sure Mbappe is. You'd have to bid absolutely stupid money, and also hope that Real Madrid do not come in for him
 
Dax777 said:
This kind of argument doesn't work though. He scored against Juventuss. A team no one else could score against until he did. He scored against Dortmund, against City.

Saying he didn't play any top defense isn't a legitimate argument for me, he played 5 top teams and scored against 4 of them. That is a pass with flying colors under any rule. No granular analysis or reduction needed. At 18 he is a fantastic Striker. And likely to only get better.

The over hype is a function of him being this good this young. And it is based on smarts, technique and movement ( rather than say strictly speed or unusual ). So the likelihood of success is very high.
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Why is that not a legitimate argument. It wasn't to say he's not talented but rather just to add a bit of context to his exploits. he played 4 teams of which the only two I consider to have top defences he got just 1 goal in three games though to be fair its not all his fault. I consider both city and dortmund great attacking sides but not overall teams especially ones with top defences. Surely you can understand that. As for the hype, I won't get too much into it but as I've said already I consider him a very intelligent player off the ball way beyond his years and technically sufficient but as an all-rounded player I still consider both jesus and dembele as more talented than him that's why I don't but into this buy at all costs mentality and even messi level comparisons that some have stated
 
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