Kylian Mbappe

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bboy said:
Yeah, that's 15/16. New deal for Prem last year, conservative estimate is 20% increase.

The break down is the interesting bit. PSG's commercial income is 58% of their income, vs 46% for City. PSG are saying they have the same commercial incomes as Real and Barca. On that basis alone, I really can't take it for granted that they are being circumspect w/r/t FFP. And remember the World Cup is coming. Maybe they feel that, and Neymar, gives them leverage.

All I'm saying guys is, uhh...."Prima facie", there are questions to be answered. And anyone who is aware of Neymar's last transfer, but still thinks there's no way any big club could do a dodgy deall, or that this deal won't be of especial interest to all the authorities, is on another planet to me (lucky you).
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There must be questions to be answered on the 200 mil we have just spent.

The answer will be, they can afford it.
 
waspish said:
You spot on also isn't Uefa monitoring period every 3 years if you make a profit for the last 2 years or something?
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I think they review last 3 seasons each year. Each year, the oldest season drops out. No one knows what PSG's revenue/expenses will be at this point because they could well sell someone before the window closes.
 
SWP's back said:
You're still not getting it.

UEFA don't care if it was paid in one lump or in ten. The fee is amortised over the length of the contract for FFP purposes.

Whether they had 222m in cash or not just not matter 1 tiny little percent to UEFA. It isn't taken into account. It's not part of the calculation.
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I can`t believe that after all this time people on here still don`t understand how amortisation works.
 
I think it's funny as fcuk that one of the established, previously untouchable, hypocritical big boys has been blown out the water by one of the new boys in town.
The likes of Barcelona now have to worry about their own players being tapped up rather than just doing the tapping up themselves.
Good work PSG
 
Neville Kneville said:
There must be questions to be answered on the 200 mil we have just spent.

The answer will be, they can afford it.
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Sure, but there are questions. The question is the same to both clubs. UEFA will ask 'show us how your accounts work over the next three years'.

As I've said, we've got the large bump in premier league TV deal income, we've already raised nearly 50m in sales, with more to come, and released a bunch of players on large salaries. PSG were at a break even on transfer revenues, and a large increase in wages (Alves) already, before diving into Neymar And I go back to PSG already reporting so much commercial (non-tv, non-matchday) income. 70m more than us, the same as Real and Barca. I think that reduces their wiggle room considerably. I think, on the face of it, at this point they have a harder job of answering the question than we do. Sanchez at 50m won't make a world of difference, if we can shift a couple of Nasri, Mangala etc. Mbappe at 100m might, but his wages will be far less than Neymar, and frankly, I'd expect Aguero to leave for a very tidy fee of his own, and his wages would become Mbappes.
 
Let's get it back on topic please. There are separate threads to discuss FFP or the Neymar signing.
 
Marvin said:
I think they review last 3 seasons each year. Each year, the oldest season drops out. No one knows what PSG's revenue/expenses will be at this point because they could well sell someone before the window closes.
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Yeah they can personally I feel PSG are fine Funding the Neymar deal.
 
fatbloke said:
FFP should never have existed in the first place, it was done solely to protect the big boys against new competition so fuck them all and well done to PSG for doing whatever they want (if they've broken the rules).

If anything I wish we had been the one to fight against FFP but it's not the club owners way and after what they've done to our club we can't be anything but utterly grateful.
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This. Why anyone thinks it was implemented to protect clubs from going bust I'll never know. Actually, we all know, it's just that fans from other clubs ie Arse & Trafford choose not to believe it and go along with how it's been dressed up knowing full well it was put in place to protect their clubs cash flow. In a way, I'm glad we went along with it as it turned out a bigger 'FU' knowing we beat their system by fair means. Still hope PSG are taking them on mind just to see what happens. If anything they may be too chicken shit to do anything to them and stretch the rules even more which will benefit us in the long run.

Anyway, off topic, soz
 
bboy said:
Sure, but there are questions. The question is the same to both clubs. UEFA will ask 'show us how your accounts work over the next three years' .
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Actually, they'll ask how their accounts work over the last three years, including this one.

The rules don't say anything about future losses (other than if you fail the acceptable deviation test, they look more favourably on it if you have a plan to return to profitability going forward.)

EDIT: Sorry Ric, missed your post.
 
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SWP's back said:
You're still not getting it.

UEFA don't care if it was paid in one lump or in ten. The fee is amortised over the length of the contract for FFP purposes.

Whether they had 222m in cash or not just not matter 1 tiny little percent to UEFA. It isn't taken into account. It's not part of the calculation.
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No, you aren't getting it.

If 222 million magically appeared into their account, UEFA will care.

You keep going on about stuff that happens AFTER the fact.

There's a little thing in business called opening balance. If that has shot up with a mystery amount, of course they'll care. It's only what happens after the opening balance that UEFA look into. If the money is there, fair enough. But you are talking about a colossal amount to have sat there in the accounts.

If they took a loan out, they haven't disclosed this yet, which you'd assume they'd have publicized to lessen the public backlash. So the fact they have not means they either had the cash or don't want people to know where it came from.

Stop focusing on the structure of the FFP fallout man, it's as simple as did they have 222 million to let that cheque clear or didn't they.
 
Big battle Real / PSG for Mbappé. Both clubs multiply contacts with the player's entourage. Everyone hopes to convince Kylian quickly.
 
City_Sean said:
Was just about to mention this. I find it a little strange, unless we've done something mad and have already more or less closed a deal? As you know we don't really leak our deals to the press.
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If we have more or less closed the deal, Real and PSG would know just like Juve and Liverpool knew when they tried to sign Mendy. We have an outside chance of signing him, but I'm not particularly optimistic. I think the Nike rumours make sense. It would be massive for Mbappe to be the poster boy of 2018 World Cup alongside Neymar, Cavani and Veratti besides the other obvious positives. Don't even need to say Madrid's name here because they are the obvious front-runner. I think if we don't get Mbappe and he picks Madrid, we would possibly try to deal with Perez to get Bale who they'll have to offload to accommodate Mbappe.
 
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