Labour / Tory Party meltdown Referendum fallout

2sheikhs said:
Or they have seen his plans and think it would be bad for the country
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well you say that but no one really knows

Devon and Cornwall for example strong tory and lib dem had the biggest turn out for decades at cotlrbyn raĺlies, have you ever thoughr that if he had unbiased media coverage that maybe his positive message of an equal forward thinking united country might not resonate with many, rather than the establishment bile spunked out the last 12 months
 
2sheikhs said:
Or they have seen his plans and think it would be bad for the country
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So if he doesn't become prime minister, it's all down to the media? Nothing to do with people disagreeing with his policies?
 
The fact is, corbyn could knock on every door in the country and ask people do they want more investment in schools, hospitals etc and not many people would disagree with him.
He's not the person to deliver it. You know it. Everyone knows it. He'll always be seen as a career protester. The labour party is becoming nothing more than a pressure group.
The problem with him and people like Diane Abbott is that they assume that they're right and anyone who disagrees with them is either uneducated or ignorant. It's pure arrogance.
 
2sheikhs said:
The fact is, corbyn could knock on every door in the country and ask people do they want more investment in schools, hospitals etc and not many people would disagree with him.
He's not the person to deliver it. You know it. Everyone knows it. He'll always be seen as a career protester. The labour party is becoming nothing more than a pressure group.
The problem with him and people like Diane Abbott is that they assume that they're right and anyone who disagrees with them is either uneducated or ignorant. It's pure arrogance.
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So you agree with his policies at least but don't believe there is a way to deliver it. That's a start.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Control of the media, wow now that really is communism.

Ending perpetual war. Christ how the fuck is he going to do that?
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There is already control of the media, I said better control.

Ending perpetual war would require someone in power who is unable to be bought. Don't kid yourself about who rules this world. Arms manufacturers who lobby governments, banks who push debt and misery, and media who tell everyone this is the right way go to about it are much more powerful than any government and thus have more influence over the world's population.
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
There is already control of the media, I said better control.

Ending perpetual war would require someone in power who is unable to be bought. Don't kid yourself about who rules this world. Arms manufacturers who lobby governments, banks who push debt and misery, and media who tell everyone this is the right way go to about it are much more powerful than any government and thus have more influence over the world's population.
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Correct.
 
Hamann Pineapple said:
There is already control of the media, I said better control.

Ending perpetual war would require someone in power who is unable to be bought. Don't kid yourself about who rules this world. Arms manufacturers who lobby governments, banks who push debt and misery, and media who tell everyone this is the right way go to about it are much more powerful than any government and thus have more influence over the world's population.
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I reckon you are right with Jezza as pm the Syrian war will end immediately as well as the wests conflict with Isis, North Korea will put down its arms and cuddle the people of the south. Israel and the palastine will hold hands and pray and give thanks to Jezza.

Do you really believe this nonsense. That Jeremy Corbyn can stop world wars and conflicts. My god I am at a loss.
 
Corbyn's election as leader is like a nervous breakdown for Labour.

Instead of rationally coping with the election defeat last year the party has panicked and its members are now acting like a bunch of students playing at politics rather than people who want to organise properly and professionally in order to get power.

They've thrown in the towel and are using the party as a hobby.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
I reckon you are right with Jezza as pm the Syrian war will end immediately as well as the wests conflict with Isis, North Korea will put down its arms and cuddle the people of the south. Israel and the palastine will hold hands and pray and give thanks to Jezza.

Do you really believe this nonsense. That Jeremy Corbyn can stop world wars and conflicts. My god I am at a loss.
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You are talking a lot but saying nothing. I am answering your questions.
 
There's only one person I can think of that could be a credible, electable leader but he doesn't want the job.
Everyone wants a better health service and better schools. Everyone wants world peace (well, most people).
They're not policies, they're desires.
If anyone thinks that the election of corbyn isn't the end of the party as a credible opposition, they're deluded.
 
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