Lakeys film?

Corky said:
stony said:
Corky said:
Tragic would be Gazza, Paul still has a good career with he Premier League last I heard. Is he better or worse off than White, Brightwell, Hincliffe, Scott, Moulden, Redmond etc now?

Gazzas problems were all of his own making. I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make with the others.

The career after he plays lasts longer, and he has a good one now, probably better than city players of a similar level didn't have serious injuries so young. David White played his last game the year after Paul Lake retired. Many promising players of the 1986 FAYC winning team didn't have dream careers, so it isn't nailed on Lake would without the injury against Villa.

He didn't get the chance though did he. His career was cut short. Ask the average football fan who Paul Lake is and unless they were of a certain generation and took an interest in other teams, they wouldn't have a fucking clue. He lost the chance to become a legend of not just City but of the England national side too.
Yes he's got a decent career now, and that's a testament to his character. What he doesn't have and didn't get the chance to earn, is his name in the history books as a great player, and for me that is a tragedy.
 
stony said:
johnnytapia said:
Blue Streak said:
Some time back ago here on Bluemoon it was rumoured a film was being made regarding Paul Lakes tragic career. It seems to have gone a bit quiet recently and I just wondered if anybody had any ideas if this was still happening?

"tragic" - didn't know he'd died. RIP Paul. Or was that a touch of hyperbolic nonsense? He had his career cut short. Nobody died. Sad, yes. Tragic, no.

One of the best players of his generation who was tipped to be a future England captain has his career cut short. I'd say that's pretty fucking tragic.

So, let's get this right - a bloke has to change jobs from one he was really good at to another that allows him to work 20-20 hours a week, full pension that ensures he's financially extremely secure, thus ensuring he can maintain the lifestyle he was accustomed to in his old job - and you think that's "tragic". Get a grip.
 
citymacc said:
stony said:
johnnytapia said:
"tragic" - didn't know he'd died. RIP Paul. Or was that a touch of hyperbolic nonsense? He had his career cut short. Nobody died. Sad, yes. Tragic, no.

One of the best players of his generation who was tipped to be a future England captain has his career cut short. I'd say that's pretty fucking tragic.

I'm with you there!

Do you think Brendan would leave a wreath to mark this tragedy!
 
Yep same as Richard Edgehill, both got in England squads, had similar injuries. Edgehill after his injury never got a sniff of England again, at got abuse off fans in the end. Ian Brightwell was an all rounder not far behind Lake, Arsenal wanted him Campbell plus cash in around 1991, we had lots of promising players, and most have middling jobs now. If they were born 12 years later they would probably all be millionaires for life.
 
Corky said:
Yep same as Richard Edgehill, both got in England squads, had similar injuries. Edgehill after his injury never got a sniff of England again, at got abuse off fans in the end. Ian Brightwell was an all rounder not far behind Lake, Arsenal wanted him Campbell plus cash in around 1991, we had lots of promising players, and most have middling jobs now. If they were born 12 years later they would probably all be millionaires for life.

Folk seem to think they were on buttons - they were on significantly more than the average wage at the time - and then some. This nonsense that Lake suffered immeasurably and is now living a life of misery is utter bollocks. He did have his career cut short. Sad. He didn't die, didn't contract some life-threatening "tragic" disease. Time for some perspective. He played fewer games than Graham Baker or Jeff Whitley so let's have it right - he could have, should have, would have - but didn't.
 
johnnytapia said:
Corky said:
Yep same as Richard Edgehill, both got in England squads, had similar injuries. Edgehill after his injury never got a sniff of England again, at got abuse off fans in the end. Ian Brightwell was an all rounder not far behind Lake, Arsenal wanted him Campbell plus cash in around 1991, we had lots of promising players, and most have middling jobs now. If they were born 12 years later they would probably all be millionaires for life.

Folk seem to think they were on buttons - they were on significantly more than the average wage at the time - and then some. This nonsense that Lake suffered immeasurably and is now living a life of misery is utter bollocks. He did have his career cut short. Sad. He didn't die, didn't contract some life-threatening "tragic" disease. Time for some perspective. He played fewer games than Graham Baker or Jeff Whitley so let's have it right - he could have, should have, would have - but didn't.

Who's talking about money ? Its got fuck all to do with what he's earned or what he could have earned. It has everything to do with not fulfilling your potential and having your dream snatched away from you by a cruel twist of fate. The fact that your view of this is purely from a monetary perspective speaks volumes.
 
stony said:
johnnytapia said:
Corky said:
Yep same as Richard Edgehill, both got in England squads, had similar injuries. Edgehill after his injury never got a sniff of England again, at got abuse off fans in the end. Ian Brightwell was an all rounder not far behind Lake, Arsenal wanted him Campbell plus cash in around 1991, we had lots of promising players, and most have middling jobs now. If they were born 12 years later they would probably all be millionaires for life.

Folk seem to think they were on buttons - they were on significantly more than the average wage at the time - and then some. This nonsense that Lake suffered immeasurably and is now living a life of misery is utter bollocks. He did have his career cut short. Sad. He didn't die, didn't contract some life-threatening "tragic" disease. Time for some perspective. He played fewer games than Graham Baker or Jeff Whitley so let's have it right - he could have, should have, would have - but didn't.

Who's talking about money ? Its got fuck all to do with what he's earned or what he could have earned. It has everything to do with not fulfilling your potential and having your dream snatched away from you by a cruel twist of fate. The fact that your view of this is purely from a monetary perspective speaks volumes.
Paul Lake finds it difficult to walk. He certainly can't run and he's a damn site younger than me. The guy was screwed over and had REAL potential
 
bornblueegg said:
stony said:
johnnytapia said:
Folk seem to think they were on buttons - they were on significantly more than the average wage at the time - and then some. This nonsense that Lake suffered immeasurably and is now living a life of misery is utter bollocks. He did have his career cut short. Sad. He didn't die, didn't contract some life-threatening "tragic" disease. Time for some perspective. He played fewer games than Graham Baker or Jeff Whitley so let's have it right - he could have, should have, would have - but didn't.

Who's talking about money ? Its got fuck all to do with what he's earned or what he could have earned. It has everything to do with not fulfilling your potential and having your dream snatched away from you by a cruel twist of fate. The fact that your view of this is purely from a monetary perspective speaks volumes.
Paul Lake finds it difficult to walk. He certainly can't run and he's a damn site younger than me. The guy was screwed over and had REAL potential

As much as I'd like to see a film about him, I can't image the club will come across as anything other than complete twats.
 
stony said:
johnnytapia said:
Corky said:
Yep same as Richard Edgehill, both got in England squads, had similar injuries. Edgehill after his injury never got a sniff of England again, at got abuse off fans in the end. Ian Brightwell was an all rounder not far behind Lake, Arsenal wanted him Campbell plus cash in around 1991, we had lots of promising players, and most have middling jobs now. If they were born 12 years later they would probably all be millionaires for life.

Folk seem to think they were on buttons - they were on significantly more than the average wage at the time - and then some. This nonsense that Lake suffered immeasurably and is now living a life of misery is utter bollocks. He did have his career cut short. Sad. He didn't die, didn't contract some life-threatening "tragic" disease. Time for some perspective. He played fewer games than Graham Baker or Jeff Whitley so let's have it right - he could have, should have, would have - but didn't.

Who's talking about money ? Its got fuck all to do with what he's earned or what he could have earned. It has everything to do with not fulfilling your potential and having your dream snatched away from you by a cruel twist of fate. The fact that your view of this is purely from a monetary perspective speaks volumes.

My point of view is based purely on facts. And the facts are, he had his career curtailed. That, whichever way you want to portray it - humanely, financially, or any other way is so far from being "tragic" as to warrant my disbelief that anyone could even think it comes close. It's a fucking country mile from tragedy. Footballer gets injured. Footballer doesn't play as long as planned. If you call that "tragic" I await with interest your choice of adjective for the events in Gaza, Ukraine, etc, etc: sad? unfortunate? untimely?
 
johnnytapia said:
stony said:
johnnytapia said:
Folk seem to think they were on buttons - they were on significantly more than the average wage at the time - and then some. This nonsense that Lake suffered immeasurably and is now living a life of misery is utter bollocks. He did have his career cut short. Sad. He didn't die, didn't contract some life-threatening "tragic" disease. Time for some perspective. He played fewer games than Graham Baker or Jeff Whitley so let's have it right - he could have, should have, would have - but didn't.

Who's talking about money ? Its got fuck all to do with what he's earned or what he could have earned. It has everything to do with not fulfilling your potential and having your dream snatched away from you by a cruel twist of fate. The fact that your view of this is purely from a monetary perspective speaks volumes.

My point of view is based purely on facts. And the facts are, he had his career curtailed. That, whichever way you want to portray it - humanely, financially, or any other way is so far from being "tragic" as to warrant my disbelief that anyone could even think it comes close. It's a fucking country mile from tragedy. Footballer gets injured. Footballer doesn't play as long as planned. If you call that "tragic" I await with interest your choice of adjective for the events in Gaza, Ukraine, etc, etc: sad? unfortunate? untimely?

Your point of view is based purely on semantics and your interpretation of what constitutes a tragedy.
Don't take this the wrong way, but do you have Aspergers ?
 

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