Lakeys film?

3 seasons, 2 in the second division. Didn't Richard Edgehill get in the England squad at a younger age and Richards?

How he could have been is just speculation and sentiment, and no one knows.

Of course he was a good player, but in his book he could sense a injury coming, would it only have been a matter of time anyway? Again, no one really knows.
 
I'll play Paul Moulden but would need a load of make up to take around 30 years off me and I would like Kylie to play Mel Machin's daughter. ;)
 
Corky said:
3 seasons, 2 in the second division. Didn't Richard Edgehill get in the England squad at a younger age and Richards?

How he could have been is just speculation and sentiment, and no one knows.

Of course he was a good player, but in his book he could sense a injury coming, would it only have been a matter of time anyway? Again, no one really knows.

I'm not convinced you're making much of a case. None of us knows what the future may hold? Well, duh!
That infinite possibilities exist, from Lakey accidentally driving his car into a ravine in Boggart Hole Clough to tearing his cruciates getting out of bed, doesn't prevent us from drawing reasonably informed conclusions in respect of his likely career path, based on an assessment of the abilities he had demonstrated in those three years, does it?
He was already captain of Manchester City and he'd been called into the provisional 1990 World Cup squad. The guy oozed class as a footballer, and likening him to Edgy or Micah because they also made England squads at a young age isn't a particularly compelling argument. Geoff Thomas and Paul Gascoigne both played for England, yet in terms of ability and footballing sophistication one was a Jaguar and the other was a Trabant.
No, nobody can state anything with 100% certainty, but it's not unreasonable to look back at Paul Lake's performance levels at City and believe that he was one of the best we've ever had, and would have improved further with age.
 
What happened to Lakey was a tragedy both for him personally and us as a club,although if he would have developed and progressed as expected one of the big boys,who were already sniffing around,would have probably snapped him up.

He had everything and could also play centre half or midfleld with ease.Those doubting how good he was and could become should read some of the interviews that are out there from top managers and football people singing his praises.

If you know/knew anything about football and saw this kid play you knew he was destined for the very top both for City and England.

That being said i am not sure outside of a niche market of City fans there would be a lot of interest in a film but you never know.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Corky said:
3 seasons, 2 in the second division. Didn't Richard Edgehill get in the England squad at a younger age and Richards?

How he could have been is just speculation and sentiment, and no one knows.

Of course he was a good player, but in his book he could sense a injury coming, would it only have been a matter of time anyway? Again, no one really knows.

I'm not convinced you're making much of a case. None of us knows what the future may hold? Well, duh!
That infinite possibilities exist, from Lakey accidentally driving his car into a ravine in Boggart Hole Clough to tearing his cruciates getting out of bed, doesn't prevent us from drawing reasonably informed conclusions in respect of his likely career path, based on an assessment of the abilities he had demonstrated in those three years, does it?
He was already captain of Manchester City and he'd been called into the provisional 1990 World Cup squad. The guy oozed class as a footballer, and likening him to Edgy or Micah because they also made England squads at a young age isn't a particularly compelling argument. Geoff Thomas and Paul Gascoigne both played for England, yet in terms of ability and footballing sophistication one was a Jaguar and the other was a Trabant.
No, nobody can state anything with 100% certainty, but it's not unreasonable to look back at Paul Lake's performance levels at City and believe that he was one of the best we've ever had, and would have improved further with age.

Just like Michael Johnson was the next Colin Bell and Flitcroft before him. It always turns out to be true.
 
Wwywwws said:
MCFC behind the scenes was, as we now know, a complete joke; an amateur Sunday League club that just happened to have a big stadium and thousands of fans watching instead of an old fella with a dog stood next to a bucket with a magic sponge in it.

tragedy or not, I'll let u all decide. But this cracked me up.
 
Corky said:
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Corky said:
3 seasons, 2 in the second division. Didn't Richard Edgehill get in the England squad at a younger age and Richards?

How he could have been is just speculation and sentiment, and no one knows.

Of course he was a good player, but in his book he could sense a injury coming, would it only have been a matter of time anyway? Again, no one really knows.

I'm not convinced you're making much of a case. None of us knows what the future may hold? Well, duh!
That infinite possibilities exist, from Lakey accidentally driving his car into a ravine in Boggart Hole Clough to tearing his cruciates getting out of bed, doesn't prevent us from drawing reasonably informed conclusions in respect of his likely career path, based on an assessment of the abilities he had demonstrated in those three years, does it?
He was already captain of Manchester City and he'd been called into the provisional 1990 World Cup squad. The guy oozed class as a footballer, and likening him to Edgy or Micah because they also made England squads at a young age isn't a particularly compelling argument. Geoff Thomas and Paul Gascoigne both played for England, yet in terms of ability and footballing sophistication one was a Jaguar and the other was a Trabant.
No, nobody can state anything with 100% certainty, but it's not unreasonable to look back at Paul Lake's performance levels at City and believe that he was one of the best we've ever had, and would have improved further with age.

Just like Michael Johnson was the next Colin Bell and Flitcroft before him. It always turns out to be true.


Neither Johnson or Flitcroft had the ability of Lake. We obviously can't be certain what would have happened if he had not had the injury but he does not seem to be the type of individual that would have blown his career. I find it hard not to believe that he would have been a dedicated footballer and mentally strong enough to deal with the pressures of the game. Therefore, given that he is one of the most all round gifted players I have seen, I will stick to the view - cliched as it may be - that he would have captained England for many years. I venture to suggest that if he had settled into the position of ball playing centre back, he might have ranked alongside Bobby Moore in Englnad's best ever 11; not just City's. When it comes to football, there's very little that makes me sadder than what might have been for Paul Lake.
 
Corky said:
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Corky said:
3 seasons, 2 in the second division. Didn't Richard Edgehill get in the England squad at a younger age and Richards?

How he could have been is just speculation and sentiment, and no one knows.

Of course he was a good player, but in his book he could sense a injury coming, would it only have been a matter of time anyway? Again, no one really knows.

I'm not convinced you're making much of a case. None of us knows what the future may hold? Well, duh!
That infinite possibilities exist, from Lakey accidentally driving his car into a ravine in Boggart Hole Clough to tearing his cruciates getting out of bed, doesn't prevent us from drawing reasonably informed conclusions in respect of his likely career path, based on an assessment of the abilities he had demonstrated in those three years, does it?
He was already captain of Manchester City and he'd been called into the provisional 1990 World Cup squad. The guy oozed class as a footballer, and likening him to Edgy or Micah because they also made England squads at a young age isn't a particularly compelling argument. Geoff Thomas and Paul Gascoigne both played for England, yet in terms of ability and footballing sophistication one was a Jaguar and the other was a Trabant.
No, nobody can state anything with 100% certainty, but it's not unreasonable to look back at Paul Lake's performance levels at City and believe that he was one of the best we've ever had, and would have improved further with age.

Just like Michael Johnson was the next Colin Bell and Flitcroft before him. It always turns out to be true.

Did you ever see Paul Lake play?

Johnson and flitcroft looked like they would become premier league players. Lake looked like he would become the best player in the premier league.
 
If you didn't see Paul Lake play then i can understand people might be a little cynical as to how good he was and just how great he would become.If you DID see him play and still have that cynicism then i am sorry but you know little about football,i don't care how long you have watched it.
 
johnnytapia said:
Corky said:
Yep same as Richard Edgehill, both got in England squads, had similar injuries. Edgehill after his injury never got a sniff of England again, at got abuse off fans in the end. Ian Brightwell was an all rounder not far behind Lake, Arsenal wanted him Campbell plus cash in around 1991, we had lots of promising players, and most have middling jobs now. If they were born 12 years later they would probably all be millionaires for life.

Folk seem to think they were on buttons - they were on significantly more than the average wage at the time - and then some. This nonsense that Lake suffered immeasurably and is now living a life of misery is utter bollocks. He did have his career cut short. Sad. He didn't die, didn't contract some life-threatening "tragic" disease. Time for some perspective. He played fewer games than Graham Baker or Jeff Whitley so let's have it right - he could have, should have, would have - but didn't.

If you have read the highly (ahem) recommended book ''Teenage Kicks'' Paul Moulden was on 250 quid a week when top scorer in the promotion season of 89 and was offered a 25 quid rise for his new contract! (Hence his move to Bournemouth.

Steve Redmond was on 750 a week when he left in 92.
 

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