Larrson Tackle On Garcia (GIF)

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

the 2/3 minutes between Larsson's horrendous challenge and their goal were critical. Pellegrini didn't seem to protest Dean's decision to let him get off scot free .you call out a blundering ref not because you expect him to change his mind but to lay down a marker and get inside his head for the next decision he has to make. And, in this case, the next decision was when Bardsley shoved Milner down. Ideally refs should be judging each incident on its merits but most of them mentally keep score of which side they've favoured and which side is standing up for itself more.
It was the same at Stamford Bridge when MP didn't protest bad fouls by Ramires and Ivanovic and a truly vicious elbow in the neck by Terry against Kun. There's no need for players to be surrounding the ref in rag/chav style but there 's a clear need for the manager to assert himself in the technical zone.

The referee wont properly see a manager performing on the touchline and wont take any notice. That leaves the haranguing of fourth officials as the only option, which I have never understood and never seen achieve anything other than cause managers to drop themselves in the shite disciplinary wise. We dont want Baconface-esque rages and thigh slapping or Holloway arm waving. Its for the captain to take issue with the ref for me

 

[Lucky Toma]

the 2/3 minutes between Larsson's horrendous challenge and their goal were critical. Pellegrini didn't seem to protest Dean's decision to let him get off scot free .you call out a blundering ref not because you expect him to change his mind but to lay down a marker and get inside his head for the next decision he has to make. And, in this case, the next decision was when Bardsley shoved Milner down. Ideally refs should be judging each incident on its merits but most of them mentally keep score of which side they've favoured and which side is standing up for itself more.
It was the same at Stamford Bridge when MP didn't protest bad fouls by Ramires and Ivanovic and a truly vicious elbow in the neck by Terry against Kun. There's no need for players to be surrounding the ref in rag/chav style but there 's a clear need for the manager to assert himself in the technical zone.

Excellent post but impact made from the technical area will be minimal. What is needed is vocal ref influencers on the pitch.

Unfortunately the only player to do this consistently is Yaya and he gets extremely short shrift from all officials. In fact when yaya starts kicking off the very opposite applies and things start to invariably go against us.

Having an England international with genuine stature in the game - someone like Rooney, Gerrard or Lampard - is priceless in this regard and we don't have one.

As much as I loathe the Weetabix-haired prick imagine a similarly late challenge committed on Carrick and Rooney's reaction to the man in charge.
Then consider whether a blatent foul in a key area just minutes later would be over-looked.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

the 2/3 minutes between Larsson's horrendous challenge and their goal were critical. Pellegrini didn't seem to protest Dean's decision to let him get off scot free .you call out a blundering ref not because you expect him to change his mind but to lay down a marker and get inside his head for the next decision he has to make. And, in this case, the next decision was when Bardsley shoved Milner down. Ideally refs should be judging each incident on its merits but most of them mentally keep score of which side they've favoured and which side is standing up for itself more.
It was the same at Stamford Bridge when MP didn't protest bad fouls by Ramires and Ivanovic and a truly vicious elbow in the neck by Terry against Kun. There's no need for players to be surrounding the ref in rag/chav style but there 's a clear need for the manager to assert himself in the technical zone.

Excellent post but impact made from the technical area will be minimal. What is needed is vocal ref influencers on the pitch.

Unfortunately the only player to do this consistently is Yaya and he gets extremely short shrift from all officials. In fact when yaya starts kicking off the very opposite applies and things start to invariably go against us.

Having an England international with genuine stature in the game - someone like Rooney, Gerrard or Lampard - is priceless in this regard and we don't have one.

As much as I loathe the Weetabix-haired prick imagine a similarly late challenge committed on Carrick and Rooney's reaction to the man in charge.
Then consider whether a blatent foul in a key area just minutes later would be over-looked.

Good post.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

the 2/3 minutes between Larsson's horrendous challenge and their goal were critical. Pellegrini didn't seem to protest Dean's decision to let him get off scot free .you call out a blundering ref not because you expect him to change his mind but to lay down a marker and get inside his head for the next decision he has to make. And, in this case, the next decision was when Bardsley shoved Milner down. Ideally refs should be judging each incident on its merits but most of them mentally keep score of which side they've favoured and which side is standing up for itself more.
It was the same at Stamford Bridge when MP didn't protest bad fouls by Ramires and Ivanovic and a truly vicious elbow in the neck by Terry against Kun. There's no need for players to be surrounding the ref in rag/chav style but there 's a clear need for the manager to assert himself in the technical zone.

Excellent post but impact made from the technical area will be minimal. What is needed is vocal ref influencers on the pitch.

Unfortunately the only player to do this consistently is Yaya and he gets extremely short shrift from all officials. In fact when yaya starts kicking off the very opposite applies and things start to invariably go against us.

Having an England international with genuine stature in the game - someone like Rooney, Gerrard or Lampard - is priceless in this regard and we don't have one.

As much as I loathe the Weetabix-haired prick imagine a similarly late challenge committed on Carrick and Rooney's reaction to the man in charge.
Then consider whether a blatent foul in a key area just minutes later would be over-looked.

Good post.

Correct. Particularly the use of the phrase "weetabix-haired prick."

 

[steviemc]

I see they were so quick to bring the new retrospective punishment into play for utd after the Fulham game and this should have had retrospective punishment also but usual sky and FA. Sky runs football not the FA. as Sky did not show it 24/7 like they did with the utd one it never happened so nothing done about it.
Sadly all too predictable

Bang on the money.

The Football Association have announced a rule change that will allow them to charge players retrospectively should the referee see only part of the offence. The new law will come into effect on November 22 as the governing body finally answers the call to deal with incidents that match officials miss during the game.


...well that helps us a great deal ffs.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

I see they were so quick to bring the new retrospective punishment into play for utd after the Fulham game and this should have had retrospective punishment also but usual sky and FA. Sky runs football not the FA. as Sky did not show it 24/7 like they did with the utd one it never happened so nothing done about it.
Sadly all too predictable

Bang on the money.

The Football Association have announced a rule change that will allow them to charge players retrospectively should the referee see only part of the offence. The new law will come into effect on November 22 as the governing body finally answers the call to deal with incidents that match officials miss during the game.


...well that helps us a great deal ffs.

They shouldn't be changing rules during a season imo.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

Bang on the money.

The Football Association have announced a rule change that will allow them to charge players retrospectively should the referee see only part of the offence. The new law will come into effect on November 22 as the governing body finally answers the call to deal with incidents that match officials miss during the game.


...well that helps us a great deal ffs.

They shouldn't be changing rules during a season imo.

They weren't expecting the rags to struggle so much.

 

[East Level 2]

I thought they'd already said they were going to do the Fulham player that stamped on Jizzjaz? Or was that one the ref missed?
Shouting at the fourth official isn't that bad a call if the fourth official also saw the incident. He can get on the intercom and tell the ref the manager isn't too happy about the bollock he's just dropped and can also confirm the manager is right to be aggrieved.

 

[Burtonblue]

How the feck that isn't a sending off is beyond me. Surely worthy of retrospective action but I won't be holding my breath as the ref saw it and decided to take no action but award a free kick

I would dispute the fact he saw it.
He clearly didn't ****ing see it as if he had anyone but a lunatic would have given a straight red.
Awful omission and worthy of retrospective action imo

 

[grim up north]

I cannot believe that Larrson will get away with that.
Even Redknapp jnr said it was a shocker at HT and that it would be looked at..
But again we as a club have said nothing.
Get into action Marwood and make it known that the club are annoyed with this decision.
Terrible decision by the FA

Marwood?