Last 5 years netspend City and the rest of the PL

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

Financial statements are there to see what we gained net in these years in form of profits

Absolutely on the nail.
Net spend and club profits may have a relationship but they are not one and the same.
Having good net spend does not automatically result in an accumulated war chest targeting a future transfer splurge.

 

[Kippaxpete]

Hey guys I've redone my entire thread on the last 5 years, enjoy!

Great work Agent BlueBrain. Makes interesting reading, particularly as a counterpoint to the routinely negative agenda adopted by the mainstream media. That said, it's high time the club itself took a public stand to change the narrative.

 

[JASR]

no it is not. your spend was always near the top 3. once the english teams realize your academy is shit overrated, incoming money will stop for you. then you will have nowhere to hide your market distortion.

I think Chelsea will be particularly affected by FIFAs 8 (and reducing) loan players rule.
They’ll have to sell, rather than keep a massive squad

 

[Vialli98]

That chart is net spend though, not gross spend. You're right, we will have some outgoings this summer and that's the difference. Our outgoings are worth good money, Gundogan aside, who is out out of contract unless he signs an extension.

You have to have a fire sale as you can't even register some of your players for the PL or CL right now. That's an untenable situation and ripe for exploitation by other clubs. Lord knows how it's going to affect your academy.

Okay yeah fair enough, didn't look at the chart closely enough, thought it was a net spend table. But still, these tables fluctuate. United and Liverpool with their new owners coming in soon will probably go on a spending spree and I can honestly see City doing the same to refresh the squad. You're linked with both Leao and Bellingham and they'll both cost around 100m or more each.

As for the fire sale, there will be interest in a lot of them. Gallagher had about 4 clubs interested, Chelsea blocked a sale to Newcastle on deadline day. RLC and CHO can fetch decent fees as they're English and English clubs have money to burn. It won't be easy to trim the squad to where we need it to be but we can get some easy wins (like Jorginho to Arsenal) because there will be interested clubs, and some rather desperate clubs like Everton.

As I said in the Chelsea thread, there are a lot of juggling balls in the air at the moment. We'll have a clearer picture during the summer. Until then we can just speculate.

 

[Vialli98]

no it is not. your spend was always near the top 3. once the english teams realize your academy is shit overrated, incoming money will stop for you. then you will have nowhere to hide your market distortion.

Alright calm down ffs. You sound very angry for some reason. I was talking about net spend. Didn't realise the discussion was around gross spend. Our 5 year net spend before 2022 was around midtable because we have been excellent at selling players over the years.

 

[richards30]

Alright calm down ffs. You sound very angry for some reason. I was talking about net spend. Didn't realise the discussion was around gross spend. Our 5 year net spend before 2022 was around midtable because we have been excellent at selling players over the years.

there is a strong rumour that your past wanker owner was giving some buying clubs the money to over pay for some of the players you managed to shall we say get extremely favourable fees for....................

 

[Vialli98]

there is a strong rumour that your past wanker owner was giving some buying clubs the money to over pay for some of the players you managed to shall we say get extremely favourable fees for....................

I'll love to see this rumour but I'll bet your definition of what constitutes to a 'strong rumour' differs wildly from mine :)

 

[Silva2021]

I'll love to see this rumour but I'll bet your definition of what constitutes to a 'strong rumour' differs wildly from mine :)

There are rumours our owner buys every seat in our stadium.

These rumours from rival fans probably come from Big Dave down the pub and have zero truth in them.

As a Chelsea fan it must be exciting, but as an outsider looking in it’s a new way of building a squad, new length of contract and potentially a new way of spending a lot within FFP. All this from someone new to premier league and European football.

Is he a visionary or has he just gone a bit crazy, time will tell.

 

[roy.or.r]

Those good old American white boys at Chelsea are redefining the transfer market and showing incredible creative thinking, while us Dirty Arab owned monsters are destroying the game, incredible that our owner still allows this narrative, please stop it HRH.

100% this. It’s astonishing how no one is saying a word about Chelsea spending almost 500 million euros in the last 6 months on new players just because they are owned by a white Yank.

 

[Centurions]

Okay yeah fair enough, didn't look at the chart closely enough, thought it was a net spend table. But still, these tables fluctuate. United and Liverpool with their new owners coming in soon will probably go on a spending spree and I can honestly see City doing the same to refresh the squad. You're linked with both Leao and Bellingham and they'll both cost around 100m or more each.

As for the fire sale, there will be interest in a lot of them. Gallagher had about 4 clubs interested, Chelsea blocked a sale to Newcastle on deadline day. RLC and CHO can fetch decent fees as they're English and English clubs have money to burn. It won't be easy to trim the squad to where we need it to be but we can get some easy wins (like Jorginho to Arsenal) because there will be interested clubs, and some rather desperate clubs like Everton.

As I said in the Chelsea thread, there are a lot of juggling balls in the air at the moment. We'll have a clearer picture during the summer. Until then we can just speculate.

Ahh apologies. I think we're talking about different charts anyway (although you still top both).

No doubt we'll spend some cash this summer although outgoings and the last few seasons clever trading will balance a lot of it. It won't be at the net or gross outgoings of Chelsea lately, I doubt we'll ever see the like again if UEFA act swiftly.

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

there is a strong rumour that your past wanker owner was giving some buying clubs the money to over pay for some of the players you managed to shall we say get extremely favourable fees for....................

So you’re saying that a club owner has got a load of laundered money that doesn’t appear in his accounts and he further avoids the scrutiny of the tax authorities to secretly pay £millions to another club (in big sacks of cash I suppose so that money laundering regulations can be circumvented).
Then that other club can somehow launder all those £millions in used notes to get it into it’s accounts so that it can then deliberately overpay to buy players from the owner who secretly gifted them a fortune in used notes in the first instance.
Then the club owner who had secretly made the initial illicit payments gets (after all the laundering costs) a fraction of his initial outgoings back so that he then has to pay tax on the additional profit he books from receiving back some of what was his own secretly held money?

Ah, that makes perfect sense, you must be an accountant and not in the least deluded eh?

 

[Keepingthefaithsince1976]

Hey guys I've redone my entire thread on the last 5 years, enjoy!

Love reading this stuff. Thanks very much for making the effort.

 

[Sir peace frog]

pep tried a couple of times to let the press know about where we are in the net spend league over the last 5 years, his poor english(even though its very good)let him down, someone needs to write it down for him,he was trying to say 4 titles whilst not spending a lot when asked about the stick city would get if we had done a chelsea

 

[Vialli98]

Ahh apologies. I think we're talking about different charts anyway (although you still top both).

No doubt we'll spend some cash this summer although outgoings and the last few seasons clever trading will balance a lot of it. It won't be at the net or gross outgoings of Chelsea lately, I doubt we'll ever see the like again if UEFA act swiftly.

You're also much further along in your growth and structure set up than we are. I imagine we'll eventually fall back into a more measured approach in future windows once all the people in the football operation get settled into their roles.

 

[Vialli98]

100% this. It’s astonishing how no one is saying a word about Chelsea spending almost 500 million euros in the last 6 months on new players just because they are owned by a white Yank.

The idea that no one is saying a word about Chelsea is a bit wild to be honest. It just tells me that you (like most people) only consume your own club's news and don't really bother checking what's being said about other clubs. It's like a saw a Newcastle complain about this too, saying something along the lines of 'Chelsea spend x amount of money, not a word but we spend 12m on Dan Burn and the press goes into a meltdown about how we're ruining football'.

If you only consume City news, well of course you're gonna think City get a much harder time from the press than any other club.

 

[Vialli98]

There are rumours our owner buys every seat in our stadium.

These rumours from rival fans probably come from Big Dave down the pub and have zero truth in them.

As a Chelsea fan it must be exciting, but as an outsider looking in it’s a new way of building a squad, new length of contract and potentially a new way of spending a lot within FFP. All this from someone new to premier league and European football.

Is he a visionary or has he just gone a bit crazy, time will tell.

It's both exciting and making me apprehensive at the same time. I don't know what these owners are about. They have been here less than a year.

 

[Centurions]

The idea that no one is saying a word about Chelsea is a bit wild to be honest. It just tells me that you (like most people) only consume your own club's news and don't really bother checking what's being said about other clubs. It's like a saw a Newcastle complain about this too, saying something along the lines of 'Chelsea spend x amount of money, not a word but we spend 12m on Dan Burn and the press goes into a meltdown about how we're ruining football'.

If you only consume City news, well of course you're gonna think City get a much harder time from the press than any other club.

Can't deny that :)

 

[waspish]

The idea that no one is saying a word about Chelsea is a bit wild to be honest. It just tells me that you (like most people) only consume your own club's news and don't really bother checking what's being said about other clubs. It's like a saw a Newcastle complain about this too, saying something along the lines of 'Chelsea spend x amount of money, not a word but we spend 12m on Dan Burn and the press goes into a meltdown about how we're ruining football'.

If you only consume City news, well of course you're gonna think City get a much harder time from the press than any other club.

Yeah there loads of chatter about it mainly positive! So more to do with there nothing about in the media saying ruining football or how they putting two fingers up to ffp!

My take is teams should but who the fuck they want and the media should always take the positive out of that!

Example pep second season the summer we spent 250m the outrage the ffp articles the city ruining football was all out there in full!

Oh that season was the 100 point season..

 

[Silva2021]

It's both exciting and making me apprehensive at the same time. I don't know what these owners are about. They have been here less than a year.

Enjoy it, when you take everything away football is entertainment and with all those signings the entertainment level will go up one way or the other.

Everyone loves expensive new signings

 

[Vialli98]

Yeah there loads of chatter about it mainly positive! So more to do with there nothing about in the media saying ruining football or how they putting two fingers up to ffp!

My take is teams should but who the fuck they want and the media should always take the positive out of that!

Example pep second season the summer we spent 250m the outrage the ffp articles the city ruining football was all out there in full!

Oh that season was the 100 point season..

I have seen loads and loads of negative stories about Chelsea. I have seen pundits on skysports, talksport etc all have a go at ridiculing Boehly and Chelsea for either spending too much, or being clueless, or distorting the market etc. To me it seems like endless avalanche but I guess to someone who only checks for City news, all that stuff will go unnoticed. It is what it is though.

Chelsea fans complain about the exact same things City fans complain about - that Chelsea get unfair press coverage and that there is a media agenda against Chelsea etc, hence I find it difficult to take it seriously when a fan of any club complains about being the target of media agenda.