Last Film You Saw

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

Rita sue and Bob too

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Haha, yeah i suppose you're right.
Remember it being discussed at length a few times in my younger days, when me & mates used to pile back to someones house for a smoke after the pub.

They are different people, there is no mystery, just like the other actors he plays different people like Lee Van Cleef for example is Mortimer in More and Angel Eyes in TGTBTU. There are others actors playing different characters as well, like the bloke who was Indio in More is in Dollars as Rojo, and his big henchman with the scar over his eye who is in all 3 films, dying in each one.

In addition to this he's really rich after More, with $27,000 in bounties and the contents of the safe, so why does he need the gold in TGTBTU? Clint is either different people or has a bad gambling/herion addiction. I remember reading that the gold value is around $27m if it was in today's money.

To give some clarity though TGTBTU was set in a time before Dollars (there is a grave stone that reads 1873) and the civil war which features in TGTBTU was 1861-65. So if you think they are the same person TGTBTU was a prequil, but blowing the equivalent of $27m in 8 years is going for it.

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

Haha, now that is some fine post piss up chatter tbf @Ghandi's Flip Flops I find myself analyzing the consistency of costume departments regarding their guns and such. They are usually pretty good and often look real, probably are. Like when you get a first person view of the poor sod about to cop it from a Clint help firearm. You don't get that kind of choreography much these days and it was very effective. That said we must remember the fine as fuck music accompanying the film which i guess helps in that respect.

lol. i watched Blood Orange (with Iggy Pop) a few weeks back with the Mrs, and in it he goes hunting with what looks like an old Mk3 or 4 SMLE rifle. I made a comment that he's wouldn't hit jack-shit with the thing as it wasn't even cocked, which caused the Mrs to roll her eyes and say 'trust you to notice that'.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Predator 2 to me was kinda worrying regarding society. As i lived as a kid with IRA bombings a few times a year in places where my mum had taken me shopping it seemed a natural progression tbh. Of course a child's mind was at full whizz here watching the film, it still made me think a bit though.

Haha, now that is some fine post piss up chatter tbf @Ghandi's Flip Flops I find myself analyzing the consistency of costume departments regarding their guns and such. They are usually pretty good and often look real, probably are. Like when you get a first person view of the poor sod about to cop it from a Clint help firearm. You don't get that kind of choreography much these days and it was very effective. That said we must remember the fine as fuck music accompanying the film which i guess helps in that respect.

Sergio Leone, the bloke who made them, stated a few times that he didnt consider it a trilogy, and the man with no name was invented by the Americans to help sell the films and they promoted them as a trilogy in the US. After all he actually had a name in all three films!!

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

They are different people, there is no mystery, just like the other actors he plays different people like Lee Van Cleef for example is Mortimer in More and Angel Eyes in TGTBTU. There are others actors playing different characters as well, like the bloke who was Indio in More is in Dollars as Rojo, and his big henchman with the scar over his eye who is in all 3 films, dying in each one.

In addition to this he's really rich after More, with $27,000 in bounties and the contents of the safe, so why does he need the gold in TGTBTU? Clint is either different people or has a bad gambling/herion addiction. I remember reading that the gold value is around $27m if it was in today's money.

To give some clarity though TGTBTU was set in a time before Dollars (there is a grave stone that reads 1873) and the civil war which features in TGTBTU was 1861-65. So if you think they are the same person TGTBTU was a prequil, but blowing the equivalent of $27m in 8 years is going for it.

I was told by a friend that in the recent 'Dollars Trilogy Box-set' there's bonus features which includes a running commentary during the films. During this commentary there's supposedly loads of little snippets of trivia about the films including stuff about the clothes, the actors, locations (i.e. the main woman in Fistful couldn't speak any English) and also why certain things were done in the storyline.

Been meaning to ask for it as a stocking filler, but keep forgetting about it when it gets nearer the time.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

I was told by a friend that in the recent 'Dollars Trilogy Box-set' there's bonus features which includes a running commentary during the films. During this commentary there's supposedly loads of little snippets of trivia about the films including stuff about the clothes, the actors, locations (i.e. the main woman in Fistful couldn't speak any English) and also why certain things were done in the storyline.

Been meaning to ask for it as a stocking filler, but keep forgetting about it when it gets nearer the time.

I think you might be able to ascertain that I have that box set. Trust me Leone never intended them to be a trilogy, it was a US marketing ploy to help sell the films after the success of Dollars, there was no such thing as the 'man with no name' until the marketing men got hold of them. Some of the dubbing is comically bad, quite a few of the actors were Spanish and Italian and spoke no English, they were redubbed by different actors for the American audience.

But your original poncho question is answered even if you do think of them as the same, as TGTBTU was set in a time before Fist full of dollars. So it shouldnt bug you anymore.

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

I think you might be able to ascertain that I have that box set.

Is the commentary good then? also what's the picture quality like (i.e. has it been 're-mastered') as wasn't the originals shot on cheap colour film?
Just asking, as i might try pick up a cheap 2nd hand one off ebay etc

 

[TCIB]

The Mondo versions (Italian bluray source) have the more accurate pic. The USA/DE source is sharpened and like a laser, Mondo has a lot of Grain, even at 22GB a 1080p x264 rip is still not transparent aka so close to original source the human eye can't detect any difference.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/df9124251103911 << Mondo source @ 28000kbps

http://www.imagebam.com/image/77d13b251103890 << mgm aka usa source @23000kbps

Pick your poison @Ghandi's Flip Flops i have the remuxes of them all, that is; the video is untouched just ripped with audio and chucked into a .mkv

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Is the commentary good then? also what's the picture quality like (i.e. has it been 're-mastered') as wasn't the originals shot on cheap colour film?
Just asking, as i might try pick up a cheap 2nd hand one off ebay etc

The Mondo versions (Italian bluray source) have the more accurate pic. The USA/DE source is sharpened and like a laser, Mondo has a lot of Grain, even at 22GB a 1080p x264 rip is still not transparent aka so close to original source the human eye can't detect any difference.

Errrrr, what Guy said.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Is the commentary good then? also what's the picture quality like (i.e. has it been 're-mastered') as wasn't the originals shot on cheap colour film?
Just asking, as i might try pick up a cheap 2nd hand one off ebay etc

To answer the commentary question, it got a bit annoying after a while, shut up I am trying to watch Clint being cool!!

 

[dronefromsector7G]

The Mondo versions (Italian bluray source) have the more accurate pic. The USA/DE source is sharpened and like a laser, Mondo has a lot of Grain, even at 22GB a 1080p x264 rip is still not transparent aka so close to original source the human eye can't detect any difference.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/df9124251103911 << Mondo source @ 28000kbps

http://www.imagebam.com/image/77d13b251103890 << mgm aka usa source @23000kbps

Pick your poison @Ghandi's Flip Flops i have the remuxes of them all, that is; the video is untouched just ripped with audio and chucked into a .mkv

You're such a geek

 

[TCIB]

Errrrr, what Guy said.

Comments from the encoder...

'Superior video taken from Mondo Blu-ray.
Lossless 2.0 and 5.1 English audio together with 2 commentary tracks and subtitles (main movie and 2 commentaries) were taken from EUR Blu-ray (same as US)
and carefully synched to video (which is few minutes shorter than MGM - cca 1 smaller and one bit longer scene was cut).
Rigby Reardon's avisynth script was used for synching the audio tracks, the cuts are not noticable for main audio, but they're bit noticable at few places
in commentaries (especially in few thousand frames long segment where the order of cuts was changed).
2.0 audio was in lossy Dolby Digital at EUR disc, so I opted for fully transparent AAC (quality=0.7) over needlessly big 24-bit FLAC.
Commentaries needed re-encoding to be synched too (quality=0.5, 136-138 Kbps).
Subtitles for movie are fully synched, for commentaries also, but in the differently cut scene, where the order is bit changed, I adjusted delays of some lines
to keep the monologue fluent and keep them synched as best as possible.'

@dronefromsector7G i pray to Professor Frink whilst Moe is praying to what makes dogs have bad dreams.

 

[TCIB]

http://www.imagebam.com/image/91f86e251104138 << USA

http://www.imagebam.com/image/72e360251104173 << Italian

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Comments from the encoder...

'Superior video taken from Mondo Blu-ray.
Lossless 2.0 and 5.1 English audio together with 2 commentary tracks and subtitles (main movie and 2 commentaries) were taken from EUR Blu-ray (same as US)
and carefully synched to video (which is few minutes shorter than MGM - cca 1 smaller and one bit longer scene was cut).
Rigby Reardon's avisynth script was used for synching the audio tracks, the cuts are not noticable for main audio, but they're bit noticable at few places
in commentaries (especially in few thousand frames long segment where the order of cuts was changed).
2.0 audio was in lossy Dolby Digital at EUR disc, so I opted for fully transparent AAC (quality=0.7) over needlessly big 24-bit FLAC.
Commentaries needed re-encoding to be synched too (quality=0.5, 136-138 Kbps).
Subtitles for movie are fully synched, for commentaries also, but in the differently cut scene, where the order is bit changed, I adjusted delays of some lines
to keep the monologue fluent and keep them synched as best as possible.'

@dronefromsector7G i pray to Professor Frink whilst Moe is praying to what makes dogs have bad dreams.

So what you are saying when translated into English is, its a bit better.

 

[TCIB]

So what you are saying when translated into English is, its a bit better.

Yeah, the stuff like overlays of text at the beginning etc have been swapped for English and commentary added etc. All the while keeping the Mondo version as the main video and any extended scenes from the usa source have been spliced in.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Yeah, the stuff like overlays of text at the beginning etc have been swapped for English and commentary added etc. All the while keeping the Mondo version as the main video and any extended scenes from the usa source have been spliced in.

So its better.

When you have to shoot, shoot, dont talk.

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

http://www.imagebam.com/image/91f86e251104138 << USA

http://www.imagebam.com/image/72e360251104173 << Italian

Thanks for the comparison.
From those it's possible to see why over the years there was some disagreement over the original colour of the poncho.
Some people saw it as a more dark olive green and others a funny mix of brown.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Brimstone...... I mean what the actual fuck????????

Introducing the new scoring system - 1.34/100

 

[urban genie]

Train to Busan if you like zombie films this is one to watch.

I may have posted this already though a week ago, when I watched it

 

[waspish]

Brimstone...... I mean what the actual fuck????????

Introducing the new scoring system - 1.34/100

When I read this on Imdb

"A triumphant epic of survival and a tale of womanhood and resistance against the unforgiving cruelty of a hell on earth. Our heroine is Liz (Dakota Fanning), carved from the beautiful wilderness, full of heart and grit, hunted by a vengeful Preacher (Guy Pearce) - a diabolical zealot and her twisted nemesis. But Liz is a genuine survivor; she's no victim - a woman of fearsome strength who responds with astonishing bravery to claim the better life she and her daughter deserve. Fear not. Retribution is coming."

And it on 7.4/10 I put it on next film to watch, now you have pit a dampener on it for me with your 1.34/100 are you right about the film? Or is IMDB right?