Laurence Fox launches political party

[DelToro]

I am sure you will appreciate that approximately 90% of the 120k figure quoted refers to applications for unfair dismissal which, of course, are unrelated to claims alleging discrimination against a protected characteristic such as race.

You make an excellent point about other groups in the workplace which is why many organisations promote such groups in their workplace.

I have worked with half a dozen large/multi national organisations that have specific groups eg LGBT, Disability, Race etc. No-one not in those groups gives a shit. These groups offer feedback on specific policies and initiatives and often offer advice on how to resolve issues before they become formalised.

These groups have, in some organisations, been around for 3 decades plus. It has only become an issue with Sainsbury's because certain sections of the media have deemed it worthy of comment.

Employment Tribunals have higher expectations of larger companies and would be surprised if e.g. Sainsbury's did not have positive initiatives to address inequality in the workplace.

 

[Fame Monster]

I am sure you will appreciate that approximately 90% of the 120k figure quoted refers to applications for unfair dismissal which, of course, are unrelated to claims alleging discrimination against a protected characteristic such as race.

You make an excellent point about other groups in the workplace which is why many organisations promote such groups in their workplace.

I have worked with half a dozen large/multi national organisations that have specific groups eg LGBT, Disability, Race etc. No-one not in those groups gives a shit. These groups offer feedback on specific policies and initiatives and often offer advice on how to resolve issues before they become formalised.

These groups have, in some organisations, been around for 3 decades plus. It has only become an issue with Sainsbury's because certain sections of the media have deemed it worthy of comment.

Employment Tribunals have higher expectations of larger companies and would be surprised if e.g. Sainsbury's did not have positive initiatives to address inequality in the workplace.

Very few would have a problem with a group that advises specifically on racial discrimination issues (with provisos) but this was not one of those iniatives. This was described as a single race space to discuss a political movement and it was rightly condemned.

 

[BobKowalski]

Very few would have a problem with a group that advises specifically on racial discrimination issues (with provisos) but this was not one of those iniatives. This was described as a single race space to discuss a political movement and it was rightly condemned.

That’s mighty white of you. Perhaps they should get all discussion topics vetted and approved prior to any meeting in case it strays into areas that don’t meet with your or Mr Fox’s approval.

 

[Cityfan]

To be fair it's got me thinking, I think I will now back the traditional right wing opinion and campaign to repeal the banning of fox hunting with dogs.

 

[Rascal]

This was described as a single race space to discuss a political movement and it was rightly condemned.

By who?

 

[BobKowalski]

In such an instance the solution should be based around allowing the wider space to become the area where everyone feels they have space to breath. Not creating a separate space based on race.

Yeah, because history is littered with examples of the majority voluntarily ceding space for ethnic, religious or other minorities to live their lives and everyone holding hands in a couple of verses of Kumbaya.

You guys can't even tolerate a group of black people having a meet up in the stock room of Sainsbury’s for fuck’s sake.

 

[Rascal]

In such an instance the solution should be based around allowing the wider space to become the area where everyone feels they have space to breath. Not creating a separate space based on race.

And thereby in the instances I have given totally defeating the whole point of a safe space in the first place.

Do you realise that by being against these sorts of initiatives you are actively encouraging things like wife battery, exploitation and radicalisation.

Dickheads like the anti semite holocaust denier Fox with his mysterious wealthy backers are all but promoting ethno-nationalism and the reason why anti semite holocaust denying cunts like Fox are doing this is not for your benefit, its to divide the working class. Every attempt at this sort of fucking nonsense by these pro-capitalist cunts is always about division of the working class and enhancing the capitalists classes control over the working class.

All this woke, virtue signalling, cultural Marxism,anti- do gooding propaganda is designed to create division so the working class are busy arguing amongst themselves whilst the capitalist class con the nation out of billions of pounds of our money.

One day hopefully the working class will notice what these cunts are up to and fuck them off for good. The greedy leeching twats. Not one of them gives a fuck about you, me or anybody else on this forum, all they care about is making themselves and there mates more and more wealthy.

 

[Wafty Cranker]

The issue isn’t “a group of black people having a meet up in the stock room”. In my view the issue is when the employer restricts access to an area of the business based on the colour of someone’s skin. As people have pointed out on social media, their boardroom looks like it’s restricting access based on skin colour too.

The fact Sainsbury’s have back peddled is rather telling. It comes across as virtue signalling gone wrong. The whole statement seems a bit of a fuck up. If you read the statement they also used the word ethically instead of ethnically, and finished off by mentioning they have an ethnicity pay gap.

 

[blueinsa]

The issue isn’t “a group of black people having a meet up in the stock room”. In my view the issue is when the employer restricts access to an area of the business based on the colour of someone’s skin. As people have pointed out on social media, their boardroom looks like it’s restricting access based on skin colour too.

The fact Sainsbury’s have back peddled is rather telling. It comes across as virtue signalling gone wrong. The whole statement seems a bit of a fuck up. If you read the statement they also used the word ethically instead of ethnically, and finished off by mentioning they have an ethnicity pay gap.

This and the fact they are paid by Sainsbury's to work, not discuss a political movement.

What next? A gang of far right skinheads are given a safe space at the Gregg's warehouse to discuss and plan that weekends march through Leicester?

You get paid to work. Politics, especially divisive politics that excludes on the basis of gender or ethnicity has no place in the workplace but if Sainsbury's want to allow staff to meet and discuss, no problem it's their time and money but then they don't discriminate and they allow all staff to attend.

Safe spaces are your own 4 walls, not the workplace where meetings like these make other feel uncomfortable. Or is that ok?

I'm.certain that Sainsbury's has safe space that enable all their staff to discuss and report on things that worry them be it discrimination, abuse, bullying etc. This is yet another attempt by some to demand they be treated differently and such is the fear from social media backlashes, companies fall over themselves in the rush to be seen to facilitate it.

 

[Rascal]

This and the fact they are paid by Sainsbury's to work, not discuss a political movement.

What next? A gang of far right skinheads are given a safe space at the Gregg's warehouse to discuss and plan that weekends march through Leicester?

You get paid to work. Politics, especially divisive politics that excludes on the basis of gender or ethnicity has no place in the workplace but if Sainsbury's want to allow staff to meet and discuss, no problem it's their time and money but then they don't discriminate and they allow all staff to attend.

Safe spaces are your own 4 walls, not the workplace where meetings like these make other feel uncomfortable. Or is that ok?

I'm.certain that Sainsbury's has safe space that enable all their staff to discuss and report on things that worry them be it discrimination, abuse, bullying etc. This is yet another attempt by some to demand they be treated differently and such is the fear from social media backlashes, companies fall over themselves in the rush to be seen to facilitate it.

It was not done so they could discuss BLM it was brought about by the effect of the BLM movement. That is a big difference.

Sainsburys clarified this in a tweet to the anti semitic holocaust denier Fox

The man is a charlatan working as a front for some particular dodgy right wing people who hope to use their influence and Fox's celebrity status to put pressure on the Tory party to become even more extreme than they are.