Learner driver jailed for killing girl during first outing

[jimharri]

Two years imprisonment, with good behaviour maybe out in one? And that's fair?, yer righto, what planet are you on. I think somehow, that poor girl's parents sentence will be considerably longer than two years don't you?

If that was my daughter I would want them 2 dumb cunts lined up against a wall, someone to load the bullets for me to pull the trigger, just like he did by giving her the keys to drive a fucking car, without knowing where the brake pedal is.

Well her parents have managed to forgive her.

Doesn't mean that every person would do the same. Different folks have different levels of tolerance. What's right for one couple isn't necessarily right for the couple down the road.

 

[Big Mac]

Two years imprisonment, with good behaviour maybe out in one? And that's fair?, yer righto, what planet are you on. I think somehow, that poor girl's parents sentence will be considerably longer than two years don't you?

If that was my daughter I would want them 2 dumb cunts lined up against a wall, someone to load the bullets for me to pull the trigger, just like he did by giving her the keys to drive a fucking car, without knowing where the brake pedal is.

Well her parents have managed to forgive her.

I know, and all I can say is they are better people than what I am, with a hell of a lot more compassion that what I could ever have, and my heart goes out to them.
I just know that if that was my 10yr old daughter, well I couldn't forgive something that goes way beyond stupidity.

 

[dannybcity]

Two years imprisonment, with good behaviour maybe out in one? And that's fair?, yer righto, what planet are you on. I think somehow, that poor girl's parents sentence will be considerably longer than two years don't you?

If that was my daughter I would want them 2 dumb cunts lined up against a wall, someone to load the bullets for me to pull the trigger, just like he did by giving her the keys to drive a fucking car, without knowing where the brake pedal is.

Well her parents have managed to forgive her.

Doesn't mean that every person would do the same. Different folks have different levels of tolerance. What's right for one couple isn't necessarily right for the couple down the road.

Fair point, however I was just pointing out that the parents of the girl who I'm assuming know a little bit more about the situation than we do have forgiven her. It suggests to me there might be a little bit more to the accident than the article lets on.

 

[simonk]

"As for this woman, well, Australia was invented for a reason. She should be sent there for the term of her natural life."

What the fuck does this mean?

"Australia was invented for a reason" really ?

yeah, we invented it as a dumping ground for our crims. From which you are a descendant!

; -)

 

[Bilston Blue]

As for this woman, well, Australia was invented for a reason. She should be sent there for the term of her natural life.

Why? She didn't do it on purpose did she?

She got into a lethal machine knowingly unable to control it. She didn't know what/where the brake was, or how to use it. Her husband is equally as culpable. This country is too soft. The pair of them might as well have walked into a playground armed with a gun and not knowing how to handle it. In fact, it's easier to miss with a gun.

Do you see 2 years imprisonment as a fair punishment given your first hand experience with drivers on their first outing?

It's not really about the punishment relating to the lack of experience; more the lack of regard for others, lack of respect, lack of forethought, and lack of the blindingly bloody obvious. Taking a car onto the road not knowing how to stop it. When you put it like that-not knowing how to stop the thing-it's head-shakingly frightening. It could've been any one of our kids out there, or maybe a group of them taken out together, a school trip being walked across the street. Ten years for her and I'd say that was an appropriate punishment. Two years for him.

Why did the husband take her out in a built up area? You need somewhere deserted.

I wouldn't say you need somewhere deserted. Quiet? Yes. Deserted is difficult these days. All it takes is a good talk through in relation to the controls. What the pedals do, how to use them, when to use them; and then begin practicing with full instruction, beginning with moving off and stopping, driving in straight lines, and changing up into second gear. From the beginning control is everything, without it people's lives are at risk, as this sad case proves.

She'll have to carry the guilt of being responsible for a child death for the rest of her life, I'd say that's a pretty heavy punishment in itself.

Not half as heavy as the guilt of the mother/father who gave her permission to go and play in what they thought was a safe place.

Blimey I didnt go out with my dad untill I had learnt everything and had my test booked

Everybody's different. I try to advise my pupils when they're ready. It's not always about ability or being a great driver before being ready to go out with a parent or another driver, but about having control of the car. I'd say going out with someone else is important, and a great way of developing confidence, experience, and understanding. Probably a good many on here will be blokes who tend to be confident and competent anyway, but not everyone learns in ten or fifteen hours.

How the fuck do you not know anything about the brake pedal???!!!

You'd be surprised, as I'm sure cyberblue will agree with me.

Fair point, however I was just pointing out that the parents of the girl who I'm assuming know a little bit more about the situation than we do have forgiven her. It suggests to me there might be a little bit more to the accident than the article lets on.

I'm not sure on that. The article reads pretty factual. I think some people are generally more forgiving than others. For example, religious people might be more able to forgive than those who aren't religious. Me, I wouldn't forgive anyone who harmed my daughter in that manner; you'd have to hold me back.

"As for this woman, well, Australia was invented for a reason. She should be sent there for the term of her natural life."

What the fuck does this mean?

Geez Bruce, grab a cool one and light the barbie. Strewth.