bluemoon1078
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Having a Brazilian name doesn't mean you get picked automatically! he's been shit for 12 months now and if his attitude is as bad as they say we should get rid!
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Disturbance
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bluemoon1078 said:
Absolute bollocks myth which is posted by all the anti-Elano sheep.
the god Gerry Gow
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Disturbance said:
Its no more bollocks than the myth that Elano is an all singing all dancing answer to every problem from Citys midfield to global warming.
Try doing the hard yards in training and showing more that you have in games and you'll get picked and stay picked. Its a f*****g simple formula thats worked at football clubs for 100s of years.
thegoat10
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I cant believe people are coming on here slagging off the player who has been our most creative player in the past 18 months. Yes he has his off days and can go missing for periods of the game but is there anyone out there who seriously thinks we should get rid of him and resort to the headless chicken in Fernandes or Hamman who we all see against the Rags is too old and too slow or Vassell. Every week he gets a shirt and cant do anything with it, running around and working hard is taking us back to Dicky. At least Dicky scored once in a while, Vass 1 all season I think against Midgetland, or the Faroes. Elano can see a pass can create and score (4th highest this season). Elano must stay and be played if he and the manager cant work together change the manager.
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the god Gerry Gow said:
Oh shut the fuck up, you're not even replying to what I wrote.
If the bellend Hughes actually gave Elano a run of more than 1 game in the team then he might be able to find some form. Donkeys like Benjani and Vassell get 5 games in a row to display their absolute shitness.
Elano was awesome against WHU at home, scores 2 goals then MH immediately dropped him. Tell me that's fucking great management from the Welsh wanker???
jay_mcfc
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'Elano has been shit for 12 months' is the biggest myth in football today. Check the records and see what he brings to the team.
JohnMaddocksAxe
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As much as I like Elano and players tht play in his style, I cannot agree that he has been anything other thn poor for the last 12 months.
I'm not interested in statistics about goals, they are just a side product. I want him in the team to create and dictate the tempo of the game.
He has failed to do this imo. He gives away possession far too much and is attempting the Hollywood ball far too often. This might be eyecatching but I honestly believes that those who defend him are falling into the 'Beckham syndrome'. Ie: 5 or 6 attempts to get a pass to do something spectacular which give the ball away, yet when one succeeds in finding its target all the others are forgoten.
If Elano was playing like he was in Aug to Oct 07 then he would be the first name on my teamsheet each time.
Players like him are my favorite type of player. However, I refuse to make excuses for him just because I like the way he plays the game when on form. I play players like him to run the game, provide tempo and to provide creativity. He has not been doing this, regardless of how many goals he has or hasn't scored. Goals do not justify a starting place and Frank Lampard, who scores loads more from a similar position, would not get a game for his team if his all round game was not up to scratch.
Possession is the key to all good teams. Elano has constantly wasted it in the past 12 months.
I could talk about his lack of interest in certain games too, but, although it has been criminal, that is a secondary reason.
Edit: By the way, none of that means I am pro Hughes. It's not one or the other for me. Both have been unprofessional and well below what I expect from them. Both are negative influences on the general moral and atmosphere in the camp, imo. And both should go for the general good of the club, imo
I'm not interested in statistics about goals, they are just a side product. I want him in the team to create and dictate the tempo of the game.
He has failed to do this imo. He gives away possession far too much and is attempting the Hollywood ball far too often. This might be eyecatching but I honestly believes that those who defend him are falling into the 'Beckham syndrome'. Ie: 5 or 6 attempts to get a pass to do something spectacular which give the ball away, yet when one succeeds in finding its target all the others are forgoten.
If Elano was playing like he was in Aug to Oct 07 then he would be the first name on my teamsheet each time.
Players like him are my favorite type of player. However, I refuse to make excuses for him just because I like the way he plays the game when on form. I play players like him to run the game, provide tempo and to provide creativity. He has not been doing this, regardless of how many goals he has or hasn't scored. Goals do not justify a starting place and Frank Lampard, who scores loads more from a similar position, would not get a game for his team if his all round game was not up to scratch.
Possession is the key to all good teams. Elano has constantly wasted it in the past 12 months.
I could talk about his lack of interest in certain games too, but, although it has been criminal, that is a secondary reason.
Edit: By the way, none of that means I am pro Hughes. It's not one or the other for me. Both have been unprofessional and well below what I expect from them. Both are negative influences on the general moral and atmosphere in the camp, imo. And both should go for the general good of the club, imo
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And before anyone jumps in with the 'he's still better than Vassell' line, don't bother.
Its not as simple as that and different players are played to offer different things.
And, regardless of that, just because you may think Vassell has been poor it doesn't make an iota of difference as to how you should judge Elano's performance.
Its not as simple as that and different players are played to offer different things.
And, regardless of that, just because you may think Vassell has been poor it doesn't make an iota of difference as to how you should judge Elano's performance.
Gelsons Dad
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MH is a purely autocratic leader. He is on the far left of this picture. Elano needs a participative or delegative leader, far right. Because Hughes cannot change his style (situational leadership) he cannot manage flair players and eventually will alienate all of them.