Lech Poznan - are they facists?

Hi there

Sorry for my english, but I'll try to tell you something about our political preferences. Most of Polish Ultras are patriots, but we are definitely not nazis or fascists. We hate Hitler, he was one of the biggest Poland's enemies. Of course there could be some fans who are nazis, but i can imagine that Man City fan is a nazi in private too. National spirit is very strong here in Poland. We as a Lech Poznań fans participated this year in anti-homo demonstration, celebrated Independence Day in Warsaw (<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRGJpsodbI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRGJpsodbI</a>). Tomorrow we're celebrating Wielkopolskie Uprising (? - i don't have a word to call it), 27.12.1918 this day we kicked germans assess out of Wielkopolska (thats the province or state which "capital city" is Poznań). Hundreds of flares will be burning :-). I can paste some photos after it. We're also cleaning about 2,000 old graves. Here you can read about it, use translator if you're interested (<a class="postlink" href="http://forum.wiaralecha.pl/index.php?showtopic=21690" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forum.wiaralecha.pl/index.php?showtopic=21690</a>).
We also hate communists and left side who are for example Aris fans that you're playing now. I can imagine atmosphere if we would play with them. :-)
Few years ago, that was different times - we were using celtic crosses on our flags, but now it is foreign by PZPN and Ekstraklasa. It is stupid, because red symbols are still allowed, like Che Guevara or sickle and hammer. One of our flag slogan was Białe Imperium which means White Empire.
We weren't using it, but some other polish clubs (i mean fans of course) still use symbols like Falanga (symbol of Narodowe Odrodzenie Polski - Polish National Rebirth, extreme right wing group, type it in google graphics to see this sign).

Some photos:
<a class="postlink" href="http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23478/lech_oprawa_15kolejka_jesien09_470.jpeg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23478/lech_opra ... 9_470.jpeg</a> (the man on the flag is Roman Dmowski, leader of Narodowa Demokracja - National Democracy, polish pre-war nationalistic group).

<a class="postlink" href="http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/24438/lech_oprawa_smolensk_lechia_wiosna10_470.jpeg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/24438/lech_opra ... 0_470.jpeg</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://images28.fotosik.pl/304/4d68df6205ae8d7amed.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://images28.fotosik.pl/304/4d68df6205ae8d7amed.jpg</a>

We're always the best, Poland is the best and fucking rest - that's the Polish mentality which i'm proud about.

If you have some questions i'll try to reply you if only me english let me. :)
 
great post mate. i was about to comment about how polish could not be fascist after what happened, but you have cleared that up for me.
 
Dr Bolouswki said:
Was really impressed like many others with the Poznan fans and their enthuisasm etc - considering "adopting" them as my polish team (like to have a bit of interest in other leagues)

However - I dont wanna align meself to a team that has a dodgy reputation - anyone know if Lech Poznan are considered right wing or anything like that? I haven't found much info on it by googling... dont want to end up wearing a facist shirt!

I was born in the UK but have Polish roots. I don't think much of this post at all.

Let me first ask the question why would being right wing be worse than being left wing? Hitler (supposedly right wing) killed millions in the name of inequality. Stalin ( supposedly left wing) killed millions in the name of equality. Hitler's crimes have been given much greater publicity in the UK than those of Stalin but you would have to be off your trolley to consider either any kind of role model.

In my humble opinion all this political right wing versus left wing is a load of crap designed to confuse and divide people. Treat people decently regardless of ideologies and you are on the right track.

In the second place the Poles aren't perfect but neither are the English. If you have something in common with someone and can get on with them then do it, if that's what you want. There is then that much more affection, cooperation in the world. But don't start taking a high moral ground. (Take the beam out of your own eye before worrying about the speck in someone else's etc.)
 
gregblag said:
Dr Bolouswki said:
Was really impressed like many others with the Poznan fans and their enthuisasm etc - considering "adopting" them as my polish team (like to have a bit of interest in other leagues)

However - I dont wanna align meself to a team that has a dodgy reputation - anyone know if Lech Poznan are considered right wing or anything like that? I haven't found much info on it by googling... dont want to end up wearing a facist shirt!

I was born in the UK but have Polish roots. I don't think much of this post at all.

Let me first ask the question why would being right wing be worse than being left wing? Hitler (supposedly right wing) killed millions in the name of inequality. Stalin ( supposedly left wing) killed millions in the name of equality. Hitler's crimes have been given much greater publicity in the UK than those of Stalin but you would have to be off your trolley to consider either any kind of role model.

In my humble opinion all this political right wing versus left wing is a load of crap designed to confuse and divide people. Treat people decently regardless of ideologies and you are on the right track.

In the second place the Poles aren't perfect but neither are the English. If you have something in common with someone and can get on with them then do it, if that's what you want. There is then that much more affection, cooperation in the world. But don't start taking a high moral ground. (Take the beam out of your own eye before worrying about the speck in someone else's etc.)

Strange that our friend who wrote the thread (OP) hasn`t questioned the BNP party,over here in England !!
Or is that different ??
 
No, we're just normal people.

If someone's interested - there's a video: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCcGKAmjIY&feature=youtube_gdata" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCcGKAm ... tube_gdata</a>

Our main site : <a class="postlink" href="http://www.lechpoznan.pl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.lechpoznan.pl/</a>
 
Damocles said:
We as a Lech Poznań fans participated this year in anti-homo demonstration

Hi there,

You're a fucking bunch of cunts.

Signed,
The Civilised World

Ha, ha - very eloquently put, I was thinking much the same.

'Anti-homo demonstration' - it really must still be 1972 in these peoples heads.

Bigoted c*nts even if they aren't racist.
 
Sorry but you don't understood me, i probably wrong typed it.

That was not demonstration but a contrmanifestation. We don't care what are they doing in their homes, but we don't like when they are showing it on the street (the man from the video is talking about it). If i like to fuck old womens i'm not screaming about it on the street so why they are doing it? That's the thing we hate.
 
There is a light said:
Damocles said:
Hi there,

You're a fucking bunch of cunts.

Signed,
The Civilised World

Ha, ha - very eloquently put, I was thinking much the same.

'Anti-homo demonstration' - it really must still be 1972 in these peoples heads.

Bigoted c*nts even if they aren't racist.


Would they accept an openly gay footballer at their club???
 
Bigg Bigg Blue said:
There is a light said:
Ha, ha - very eloquently put, I was thinking much the same.

'Anti-homo demonstration' - it really must still be 1972 in these peoples heads.

Bigoted c*nts even if they aren't racist.


Would they accept an openly gay footballer at their club???

Well according to him,they would,as long as he`s not shagging another player during the game !!
 
Radosław said:
Hi there

Sorry for my english, but I'll try to tell you something about our political preferences. Most of Polish Ultras are patriots, but we are definitely not nazis or fascists. We hate Hitler, he was one of the biggest Poland's enemies. Of course there could be some fans who are nazis, but i can imagine that Man City fan is a nazi in private too. National spirit is very strong here in Poland. We as a Lech Poznań fans participated this year in anti-homo demonstration, celebrated Independence Day in Warsaw (<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRGJpsodbI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRGJpsodbI</a>). Tomorrow we're celebrating Wielkopolskie Uprising (? - i don't have a word to call it), 27.12.1918 this day we kicked germans assess out of Wielkopolska (thats the province or state which "capital city" is Poznań). Hundreds of flares will be burning :-). I can paste some photos after it. We're also cleaning about 2,000 old graves. Here you can read about it, use translator if you're interested (<a class="postlink" href="http://forum.wiaralecha.pl/index.php?showtopic=21690" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forum.wiaralecha.pl/index.php?showtopic=21690</a>).
We also hate communists and left side who are for example Aris fans that you're playing now. I can imagine atmosphere if we would play with them. :-)
Few years ago, that was different times - we were using celtic crosses on our flags, but now it is foreign by PZPN and Ekstraklasa. It is stupid, because red symbols are still allowed, like Che Guevara or sickle and hammer. One of our flag slogan was Białe Imperium which means White Empire.
We weren't using it, but some other polish clubs (i mean fans of course) still use symbols like Falanga (symbol of Narodowe Odrodzenie Polski - Polish National Rebirth, extreme right wing group, type it in google graphics to see this sign).

Some photos:
<a class="postlink" href="http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23478/lech_oprawa_15kolejka_jesien09_470.jpeg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23478/lech_opra ... 9_470.jpeg</a> (the man on the flag is Roman Dmowski, leader of Narodowa Demokracja - National Democracy, polish pre-war nationalistic group).

<a class="postlink" href="http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/24438/lech_oprawa_smolensk_lechia_wiosna10_470.jpeg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/24438/lech_opra ... 0_470.jpeg</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://images28.fotosik.pl/304/4d68df6205ae8d7amed.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://images28.fotosik.pl/304/4d68df6205ae8d7amed.jpg</a>

We're always the best, Poland is the best and fucking rest - that's the Polish mentality which i'm proud about.

If you have some questions i'll try to reply you if only me english let me. :)


You are an embarresment to civilized people everywhere, you are not proud to be polish you are just proud to be a tool.

PS. not all poles are tools.
 
bluefandk said:
You are an embarresment to civilized people everywhere, you are not proud to be polish you are just proud to be a tool.

PS. not all poles are tools.


God Bless Eastern Europe.
End of topic.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Dr Bolouswki said:
Was really impressed like many others with the Poznan fans and their enthuisasm etc - considering "adopting" them as my polish team (like to have a bit of interest in other leagues)

However - I dont wanna align meself to a team that has a dodgy reputation - anyone know if Lech Poznan are considered right wing or anything like that? I haven't found much info on it by googling... dont want to end up wearing a facist shirt!
I've heard they're so facist that come September they're going to invade Poland.
lol ;-)
 
This thread is ridiculous. They're obviously a set of Guardian reading lefties.

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