Leonardo Bonucci

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Hummels is too slow, Boateng is a ****, Ramos is average, Thiago Silva is top drawer, Godin good but plays in an exceptionally defensive team.
 
bluesince76 said:
Have you seen Juve and Italy defend? Have you seen Everton? And you wonder why people think Bonucci is less of a risk?

I'm hoping Stones' defensive issues are a lot down to Martinez and Pep will be able to teach him to defend in a team which can defend properly. But to suggest Bonucci isn't up there with the current best is nonsense.
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Who said he wasn't?
 
Salfordian Blue said:
Yeah... I don't think I'll be taking his advice on footballing matters in the future.
I will gladly have a pint of what he's been drinking, mind.
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Sometimes it's easier, and more rewarding long term, to just admit your post is wrong and you were getting carried away.
 
Salfordian Blue said:
That's... well, it's not ten, is it?
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Bonucci is a good defennder but unless everyone here started watching football in January, as there have been multiple threads with multiple people listing top defenders prior to January 2016. You can check the Kompany threads for such. Not one person listed Bonnuci prior to January 2016 in their top 5.

This new found love for Bonucci came on the heels of Pep complimenting him as the best around prior to Juve playing Bayern. So when I say he is not considered the best, I'm considering the history of Bluemoon and those historically considers top defenders. Chiellini, Silva, Pepe, Ramos, Pique, Kompany and Hummels. That was the list. Boateng got no love for deserting us or else he'd have been on it too. Kolcieny and Airderwrld got mentions when people actually watched rather than go off reputation.

I am willing to pay to anyone's charity of choice if you can find a post from prior to Jan 2016 in which anyone here now or anywhere on bluemoon for that matter listed Bonnuci in their top 5 defenders. I'll pay 100 dollars to that posters charity of choice.

Unless a lot of you are now arguing he skyrocketed in the last 6 months even though his 29 and has been good for a very long time. Anyway pointless point

I bet Fantasyireland is watching me closely to see if I go off topic, so let me just sheath my sword :p
 
Dax777 said:
Bonucci is a good defennder but unless everyone here started watching football in January, as there have been multiple threads with multiple people listing top defenders prior to January 2016. You can check the Kompany threads for such. Not one person listed Bonnuci prior to January 2016 in their top 5.

This new found love for Bonucci came on the heels of Pep complimenting him as the best around prior to Juve playing Bayern. So when I say he is not considered the best, I'm considering the history of Bluemoon and those historically considers top defenders. Chiellini, Silva, Pepe, Ramos, Pique, Kompany and Hummels. That was the list. Boateng got no love for deserting us or else he'd have been on it too. Kolcieny and Airderwrld got mentions when people actually watched rather than go off reputation.

I am willing to pay to anyone's charity of choice if you can find a post from prior to Jan 2016 in which anyone here now or anywhere on bluemoon for that matter listed Bonnuci in their top 5 defenders. I'll pay 100 dollars to that posters charity of choice.

Unless a lot of you are now arguing he skyrocketed in the last 6 months even though his 29 and has been good for a very long time. Anyway pointless point

I bet Fantasyireland is watching me closely to see if I go off topic, so let me just sheath my sword :p
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Great strawman there.....

YOU said hard pressed to put him in YOUR top 10.

I refer you to my post a few mins ago, sometimes easier to just have a little humble pie.
 
Dax777 said:
Bonucci is a good defennder but unless everyone here started watching football in January, as there have been multiple threads with multiple people listing top defenders prior to January 2016. You can check the Kompany threads for such. Not one person listed Bonnuci prior to January 2016 in their top 5.

This new found love for Bonucci came on the heels of Pep complimenting him as the best around prior to Juve playing Bayern. So when I say he is not considered the best, I'm considering the history of Bluemoon and those historically considers top defenders. Chiellini, Silva, Pepe, Ramos, Pique, Kompany and Hummels. That was the list. Boateng got no love for deserting us or else he'd have been on it too. Kolcieny and Airderwrld got mentions when people actually watched rather than go off reputation.

I am willing to pay to anyone's charity of choice if you can find a post from prior to Jan 2016 in which anyone here now or anywhere on bluemoon for that matter listed Bonnuci in their top 5 defenders. I'll pay 100 dollars to that posters charity of choice.

Unless a lot of you are now arguing he skyrocketed in the last 6 months even though his 29 and has been good for a very long time. Anyway pointless point

I bet Fantasyireland is watching me closely to see if I go off topic, so let me just sheath my sword :p
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Nice one Dax, I thought you were in a no win situation, but that's a very well structured reply.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Great strawman there.....

YOU said hard pressed to put him in YOUR top 10.

I refer you to my post a few mins ago, sometimes easier to just have a little humble pie.
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He is. But my list is often statistical with deference given to ball players rather than hard men. Seeing as Bonucci is a ball player, he like Pique, Diego Reyes and other ball playing CBs get a jump.

I purposely avoided my personal best coz it's nothing like the reputation based list. I was simply trying to put forth what the reputation based list did look like.

Yeah, Stones is in my top Ten too. So it's not a very reputable top 10.
 
Dax777 said:
Bonucci is a good defennder but unless everyone here started watching football in January, as there have been multiple threads with multiple people listing top defenders prior to January 2016. You can check the Kompany threads for such. Not one person listed Bonnuci prior to January 2016 in their top 5.

This new found love for Bonucci came on the heels of Pep complimenting him as the best around prior to Juve playing Bayern. So when I say he is not considered the best, I'm considering the history of Bluemoon and those historically considers top defenders. Chiellini, Silva, Pepe, Ramos, Pique, Kompany and Hummels. That was the list. Boateng got no love for deserting us or else he'd have been on it too. Kolcieny and Airderwrld got mentions when people actually watched rather than go off reputation.

I am willing to pay to anyone's charity of choice if you can find a post from prior to Jan 2016 in which anyone here now or anywhere on bluemoon for that matter listed Bonnuci in their top 5 defenders. I'll pay 100 dollars to that posters charity of choice.

Unless a lot of you are now arguing he skyrocketed in the last 6 months even though his 29 and has been good for a very long time. Anyway pointless point

I bet Fantasyireland is watching me closely to see if I go off topic, so let me just sheath my sword :p
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Sure... but what's any of that got to do with you saying he isn't in the top ten? It was YOUR opinion that you offered.
It would have been easier to say "You know, I spoke hastily. Maybe I was wrong".

On edit: I see someone else has already responded with pretty much the same argument.
Err... this is awkward. Look, a seagull!
 
Salfordian Blue said:
Sure... but what's any of that got to do with you saying he isn't in the top ten? It was YOUR opinion that you offered.
It would have been easier to say "You know, I spoke hastily. Maybe I was wrong".

On edit: I see someone else has already responded with pretty much the same argument.
Err... this is awkward. Look, a seagull!
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lol mate, let's just move on. haha
 
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