Lescott [Merged]

[Pam]

Says he might be going on strike here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://skybluenews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://skybluenews.com/</a>

Great site mate.

This would be a bit hilarious.

 

[Blue Mooner]

Thanks Timbobs that's exactly what I am saying, when the best talent become availabe and have a choice of a number of clubs, this type of treatment of Lescott may make them choose another club over Everton.

I'm not dissing Everton, they're a big club but unfortunatley for them they are in the situation we were in before the Sheikh bought us in that they don't have the necessary resources to compete with the top 4. Everton are a victim of circumstance.

What were the effects of Villa not selling Barry to Liverpool, selling only when he had 12 months left on his contract? Was there a single young player who thought "better not sign for them"? Does Delph have no ambition? Berbatov was angling for a move 13 months before Spurs finally relented. Was Modric aware of this? Blackburn wouldn't sell Santa Cruz for a year, so they're out too.

You are assuming that young players will see "Everton turn down £18m for Lescott", and will think that means that Everton will never accept a bid from a big club ever. This is highly unlikely, partly because other clubs turn down these bids too, partly because Everton have accepted offers from big clubs in the past (Rooney and Gravesen) but mostly because a clubs reputation is based on their league position and the money offered. If players chose teams based on which club would improve them as a player and give them the best chance of getting a big move, then nobody would sign for Spurs and Newcastle who have an abysmal record at bringing players on. Yet time and time again players go there.

Why is everyone so keen to assume the extreme will occur? Lescott wants to leave, so if Everton don't sell him he will play poorly for Everton (thus costing himself any chance of a big move in future, and any chance of an England place). Young players will never sign long term contracts at Everton (the logic apparently being that Everton should sell their top players, because if they don't they will never be able to hold onto their top players).

Everton fans do it too - assuming that selling the player will be a disaster no matter what the price, that no good player will ever sign for us. When we sold Rooney, some though no player would ever sign for us again. That lasted about 3 months.

You aren't the first club to offer a player a huge pay increase but have their transfer bid turned down. Everton aren't the first to refuse one. These things happen all the time, and in the real world these extremes rarely happen.

Why they are not treating Lescott in the same way they treated Wayne Rooney is beyond me.

Like a lot of City fans on here, you seem to be under the impression that we should do the player a favour. We didn't do Rooney a favour, it was a business decision. Rooney wasn't worth £26m to Everton. We finished 17th in his last season. In his last game, we got snotted 5-1 by your lot. He wasn't effective because he got no supply and we had no idea where to play him (including some comical attempts at 4-3-3). A lot of Everton fans didn't like it at the time, but in truth swapping Rooney for about 4-5 first team players was a good move.

Selling Lescott is different, because our team is much better. Unlike 5 years ago, £3m players wouldn't get near our first team. Dispite what some Everton fans think, EVERY Everton player is for sale if they right offer came in. But it's a question of whether the money offered will improve the team. Moyes thinks £18m won't.

Very lucid and passionate defence, I get your point in relation to Rooney but the one thing that changes everything is that “Lescott has requested a transfer” That means he wants to leave Everton and join City

O’Neil recognised Barry wanted to go and was prepared to let him go at the right price. See inserted link. The problem with Liverpool was they simply didn’t have the money to make the transfer happen.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/02/barry.liverpool.transfer

Which kind of leaves your Delph example up sh*t creek without a paddle

Whichever way you try and dress it up trying to keep a player against his will is not going to do your club any favours.

Players will either avoid joining you as they will think you may inhibit their ambitions or want buy out clauses in their contracts or simply avoid signing long contracts with you which would avoid any future sell on prices you can achieve.

Selling Rooney wouldn't do that (as some of your fans wrongly feared) as you were seen as a club that developed a world calass talent and then let him go and achieve the things that his talent deserved, not hold him back for another 3 years - like you're trying to do with Lescott.

With Moyes no doubt having his eye on the Man U job I have to question whether he is actually looking after the interests of Everton or himself……

 

[Pam]

Moyes is such a pig.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

just reading through the thread and with the twitter comments and people saying it has been proved fake. The one posted has not yet.

The one that was made up was <a class="postlink" href="http://twitter.com/jlescott" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://twitter.com/jlescott</a>

this one <a class="postlink" href="http://twitter.com/joleon_lescott" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://twitter.com/joleon_lescott</a> it is unknown whether it is him or not. Maybe a few remarks in an interview like Bent may persuade us that its real Joleon ;)

 

[Blue Si O.B]

Moyes is such a pig.

lol

 

[g180aj]

Jo is a better player and prospect then Santa Cruz who we just waisted 17 mil on. It will be proven this season, Mark Hughes is a clown.

What a nob!

well said mate

 

[Neil McNab]

Moyes is such a pig.

Cetainly is a filthy swine and Goodison sure looks like a Stye!

 

[Bilboblue]

Unlike 5 years ago, £3m players wouldn't get near our first team.

Oh really?
Hibbert
Baines
Neville
Osman


you cannot HONESTLY tell me you think ANY of those are worth more than £3m?????

 

[Pam]

Unlike 5 years ago, £3m players wouldn't get near our first team.

Oh really?
Hibbert
Baines
Neville
Osman


you cannot HONESTLY tell me you think ANY of those are worth more than £3m?????

He probably HONESTLY can. Wouldn't make him right, though.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

I'd pay 10 million for Leighton Baines.To be honest I think he makes Lescott look better than he is,and if leighton didnt play for such a dull team and look like he belonged at Wigan he'd be level with Bridge for the back up role to Cashley in the England squad.