sniff said:
Are people in Everton a little overcome with a case of the fuckwitts??
If a club buys a player from say Everton or anywhere else, do they realy think that the manager is the one who sits in the board room negotiating the deal with the other club???
The two boards decided the fee and if they sell, the manager makes a recomendation to them but he is at the end of the day a member of staff(one who is getting above his station, not sure how our board would take hughes telling the world press he runs our club)
In all cases the board contact the other clubs chaiman to get the ball rolling. Has moyes been down to Arsenal to argue how much senderos is worth??
Not every club runs it's transfer dealings in identical ways. In recent years, the European model with a "director of football" who looks after transfers has become increasingly popular; at other clubs there are board members who essentially do a "director of football" job even though that isn't their title (e.g. the Chairman does that too).
However, some clubs still run the old fashioned English structure, with the manager at the centre of everything. Everton are one of those clubs. Whether Moyes has actually been to Arsenal as part of the negotiation team isn't relevent - they would have been acting on his orders. i.e. "I'm willing to pay £5m for him, don't pay any more".
It's different at clubs where the shareholders are micromanaging in order to make a profit. At Liverpool, Spurs, Newcastle, United etc, the club either pays dividends or it pays interest (essentially on behalf of its owners), so the owners half an interest in the money side as well as the football side. Everton don't do that. Every penny stays within the club. If the club sold Lescott, the money would go entirely to Moyes transfer and wage budget. So obviously, it would be pointless for Kenwright to decide on Moyes' behalf that he should sell.
I'm 100% sure Moyes would walk if any player was sold behind his back. In fact, he's said publically on many occasions (most recently at the last shareholder meeting in July) that the only demand he's ever made of his chairman is that he'll never be forced to sell a player against his will (which is different from selling a player for whom he felt he was getting a good price).