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Everton already needed a CH for cover if they sell Lescoot they will need 2 plus a left back as he does that job for them as well. For this reason we should stick to our guns and offer cash only and not much more than our last offer, he wont get it all to spend and it wont go far in this market.
Really it shows the folly of dragging out deals till the end of the window. Look at spuds with Berbaflop. It pretty much ruined there whole season and cost the manager his job (Ok the board do all the deals there but it still shafted the team and manager).
Moyes stock has definately gone down with the way he has handled this.
Really it shows the folly of dragging out deals till the end of the window. Look at spuds with Berbaflop. It pretty much ruined there whole season and cost the manager his job (Ok the board do all the deals there but it still shafted the team and manager).
Moyes stock has definately gone down with the way he has handled this.
alera said:Everton already needed a CH for cover if they sell Lescoot they will need 2 plus a left back as he does that job for them as well. For this reason we should stick to our guns and offer cash only, he wont get it all to spend and it wont go far in this market.
Really it shows the folly of dragging out deals till the end of the window. Look t spuds with Berbaflop. It pretty much ruined there whole season and cost the manager his job. Moyes stock has definately gone down with the way he has handled this.
Spot on. There's a better options out there which we can end up with Lescott in the January window, or as long as after the World Cup. Which is a better option at the end of the day will be a great business for us as we gonna keep unhappy/ unsettled player at Everton. Then we need to look elsewhere to find another option, which could be Upson or Distin.
Lescott Transfer Saga: Moyes Vs Hughes
By Omiclops
Lescott Transfer Saga: Moyes Vs Hughes
Manchester City have learnt from their mistakes in January, with fond memories of Kaka, and have conducted their summer transfer dealings in a very professional and business-like manner. Not once have they made it clear to the media about their offers and just kept their enquiries silent. Gareth Barry, Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Carlos Tevez to name a few transfers this summer that have been completed in such a manner. The only way the media knew was through the other respective party, but then everything had been agreed already, before the fans could intervene (A la Kaka).
All's good, right? Wrong. Moyes feel the need to publicly televise City's bids for Lescott to show that he supposedly has the courage to reject a big-money bid for Lescott.
Stretching back to the 8th of June, the long, drawn-out saga of Lescott's future has dominated the media, with City bidding no less than twice for the England defender. Hughes wanted the transfer to be concocted behind closed doors just like the previous transfers. However, Moyes stupidly let it out in the public, doing no favours to Lescott or City. This caused problems with Lescott's supposed imminent transfer and this was entirely down to Everton FC and David Moyes. Man City simply wanted to tempt Joleon Lescott to City, offering him greater ambition, money and a platform to fulfil his undoubted potential. However, Moyes blocked City's initial offer of £16m by announcing it to the media and making it clear he wasn't for sale, while at the same time, blasting the City manager. This was followed by a further £18m offer and more criticism from Moyes.
From a non-Evertonian perspective, Mark Hughes has done nothing wrong. Moyes is simply rattled that City may rip the glue from his tattered team. But is it really fair to stop a player from leaving against their will? It will only cause Everton to have an unsettled player and £18m short in the bank. Their financial issue is hardly a well-kept secret.
Everton have been plagued with injuries this season, and with their already thin squad, the pressure is getting to him. This was shown as Arsenal ripped Everton's defence to pieces with their scintillating display that allowed them to bag 6 'goal-of-the-month' worthy goals. Although Lescott wasn't particularly at fault, his lapse in concentration and laziness cost Everton. His mind is clearly elsewhere and this is down to Moyes' selfish and hard-headed stance.
However, his arrogant ways will only cost him. Hughes is in the driving seat in this saga as Lescott made it apparent he wanted to join the Revolution with his clearly written transfer request as the fans cheers during the friendly fell on deaf ears.
It's a case of who will back down. Hughes definitely won't as he has Moyes exactly where he wants him. An unhappy player and lacking financial funds. It's only a matter of time before a third and final bid will be done and Moyes will have no option to accept, even if he doesn’t want to, the big man upstairs will force the transfer. Thus proving Moyes has limited control over his transfers and making the Everton manager lose that all-important pride. The one thing he tried to prove by making the initial interest/bid public.
Time's up Moyes...
By Omiclops
Lescott Transfer Saga: Moyes Vs Hughes
Manchester City have learnt from their mistakes in January, with fond memories of Kaka, and have conducted their summer transfer dealings in a very professional and business-like manner. Not once have they made it clear to the media about their offers and just kept their enquiries silent. Gareth Barry, Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Carlos Tevez to name a few transfers this summer that have been completed in such a manner. The only way the media knew was through the other respective party, but then everything had been agreed already, before the fans could intervene (A la Kaka).
All's good, right? Wrong. Moyes feel the need to publicly televise City's bids for Lescott to show that he supposedly has the courage to reject a big-money bid for Lescott.
Stretching back to the 8th of June, the long, drawn-out saga of Lescott's future has dominated the media, with City bidding no less than twice for the England defender. Hughes wanted the transfer to be concocted behind closed doors just like the previous transfers. However, Moyes stupidly let it out in the public, doing no favours to Lescott or City. This caused problems with Lescott's supposed imminent transfer and this was entirely down to Everton FC and David Moyes. Man City simply wanted to tempt Joleon Lescott to City, offering him greater ambition, money and a platform to fulfil his undoubted potential. However, Moyes blocked City's initial offer of £16m by announcing it to the media and making it clear he wasn't for sale, while at the same time, blasting the City manager. This was followed by a further £18m offer and more criticism from Moyes.
From a non-Evertonian perspective, Mark Hughes has done nothing wrong. Moyes is simply rattled that City may rip the glue from his tattered team. But is it really fair to stop a player from leaving against their will? It will only cause Everton to have an unsettled player and £18m short in the bank. Their financial issue is hardly a well-kept secret.
Everton have been plagued with injuries this season, and with their already thin squad, the pressure is getting to him. This was shown as Arsenal ripped Everton's defence to pieces with their scintillating display that allowed them to bag 6 'goal-of-the-month' worthy goals. Although Lescott wasn't particularly at fault, his lapse in concentration and laziness cost Everton. His mind is clearly elsewhere and this is down to Moyes' selfish and hard-headed stance.
However, his arrogant ways will only cost him. Hughes is in the driving seat in this saga as Lescott made it apparent he wanted to join the Revolution with his clearly written transfer request as the fans cheers during the friendly fell on deaf ears.
It's a case of who will back down. Hughes definitely won't as he has Moyes exactly where he wants him. An unhappy player and lacking financial funds. It's only a matter of time before a third and final bid will be done and Moyes will have no option to accept, even if he doesn’t want to, the big man upstairs will force the transfer. Thus proving Moyes has limited control over his transfers and making the Everton manager lose that all-important pride. The one thing he tried to prove by making the initial interest/bid public.
Time's up Moyes...
auction294
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The balance of power in this transfer seems to have shifted over to us. Moyes has played it very badly and now it would seem that Everton would stand to lose much more than us if the deal falls apart. Before the Blackburn game I'm pretty sure most of us thought he had us over a barrell as we needed defensive cover, but after the display at Ewood, and Everton's woefull performance against Arsenal it seems that we can play the waiting game. Possibly until January unless of course we take our interest elsewhere. It seems though that Ned, Zab & Kompay to take into consideration we do have options.
nmc
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A lot of people think we should walk away from the Lescott deal - and I can see the logic in terms of screwing Moyes and EFC but we have clearly had lots of dialogue with Lescott's agent and Lescott has pushed hard for this move (I personally never thought he'd hand in a transfer request) - to the extent we have to go through with it. Others players and their representatives will be watching and we need to stand by Lescott - if we don't we can't expect a player in the future to push for a move - if City have a track record of walking away.
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nmc said:A lot of people think we should walk away from the Lescott deal - and I can see the logic in terms of screwing Moyes and EFC but we have clearly had lots of dialogue with Lescott's agent and Lescott has pushed hard for this move (I personally never thought he'd hand in a transfer request) - to the extent we have to go through with it. Others players and their representatives will be watching and we need to stand by Lescott - if we don't we can't expect a player in the future to push for a move - if City have a track record of walking away.
I completely agree - let's keep our morality in tact - the only condition is that it needs to be done in time and if not we need to move to plan B (or C)
if this deal is going to happen it has to happen soon really more the fact lescott's head must be well up his arse especially being made to stay against his will then all so made to play when not in the right frame of mind to play for a club were you have only just burnt bridges.
if this deal does not happen soon we may have a player that will not have his head right for a few weeks and that will not be good at all for the club.
if this deal does not happen soon we may have a player that will not have his head right for a few weeks and that will not be good at all for the club.
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Fuck sake.
I was expecting us to have signed him yesterday!
I was expecting us to have signed him yesterday!
Blue4ever85 said:Fuck sake.
I was expecting us to have signed him yesterday!
nope but copy and paste your comment for tomorrow so you don't have to waste time typing again :)
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