Lescott [Merged]

[Forzacitizens]

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?Neville_hits_out_at_Citys_pursuit_of_Lescott&in_article_id=712101&in_page_id=43

MUPPET!!

what a twat!

 

[Mutley]

...because in my view of the past few seasons you have achieved a final league position which is better than the teams ability. The league table doesn't lie, but in this case I truly believe Everton have punched above their weight and are a top ten to five team, rather than a top five team. If you recall, Everton got off to a fairly sluggish start the past couple of seasons, and the some sections of fans were quite vociferous in their criticism of Moyes. Had this poor run manifested itself a little further then confidence which is the key may have been affected. You could have quite easily found yourselves in mid table mediocrity for the remainder of the season.

Could that not be said of City whilst in a relegation place mid season ?
When you win a title 5 times , would you be punching above your weight ? Why is it when you consistantly finish in the top section that the tag still applies ? Banter aside , it's time to give Everton a little credit and respect for their achievements , rather than think of them as over achieving .

Don't call me a prat mate, I just dont agree with everton fans coming onto another clubs forum acting the goat. And im not having a personal go as I dont know what you've posted but there have been posts on here that makes some of our fans look a bit idiotic. Anyway, I agree with what you have said above. Before this summer I believe we had the best first XI outside of the top 4 and we haven't been able to play that for some time. I still think only City can now boast a better XI and even then you can't put a price on a proper 'team' that works well together. We over achieved when we finished 4th, our recent achievements have been fully merited.

 

[jimbo101]

Finally, a little sense from DSOB.
Agree that respect is due for Everton - achieving high finishes with a limited budget - & pretty loyal support too.
However most of that is due to the combative style & being particularly difficult to beat. Great for overcoming most teams, but you have reached the 'glass ceiling' where that style will take you no further.
We're having to compact 3-4 years of champions league style spending into 1 season to launch a bid to break into the top 4.
Even with this sort of financial clout we still have to go out & make it happen.
Without this sort of backing, you have no chance.
Sorry, but true.

 

[metalblue]

...because in my view of the past few seasons you have achieved a final league position which is better than the teams ability. The league table doesn't lie, but in this case I truly believe Everton have punched above their weight and are a top ten to five team, rather than a top five team. If you recall, Everton got off to a fairly sluggish start the past couple of seasons, and the some sections of fans were quite vociferous in their criticism of Moyes. Had this poor run manifested itself a little further then confidence which is the key may have been affected. You could have quite easily found yourselves in mid table mediocrity for the remainder of the season.

Could that not be said of City whilst in a relegation place mid season ?
When you win a title 5 times , would you be punching above your weight ? Why is it when you consistantly finish in the top section that the tag still applies ? Banter aside , it's time to give Everton a little credit and respect for their achievements , rather than think of them as over achieving .

Sorry to answer a question with a question but look at this way. Take Chelsea, a team who have seemingly changed manager annually, they have consistently achieved a top 4 position, why because they have a good team so they cannot be classed as over achieving. Take Moyes out of Everton and where do you think you would finish?

 

[Darker shade of Blue]

Could that not be said of City whilst in a relegation place mid season ?
When you win a title 5 times , would you be punching above your weight ? Why is it when you consistantly finish in the top section that the tag still applies ? Banter aside , it's time to give Everton a little credit and respect for their achievements , rather than think of them as over achieving .

which are what exactly? am i correct in thinking that you have won jack all in the 21st century?

It's these short sighted comments that make a discussion difficult .

 

[borassic]

Could that not be said of City whilst in a relegation place mid season ?
When you win a title 5 times , would you be punching above your weight ? Why is it when you consistantly finish in the top section that the tag still applies ? Banter aside , it's time to give Everton a little credit and respect for their achievements , rather than think of them as over achieving .

Don't call me a prat mate, I just dont agree with everton fans coming onto another clubs forum acting the goat. And im not having a personal go as I dont know what you've posted but there have been posts on here that makes some of our fans look a bit idiotic. Anyway, I agree with what you have said above. Before this summer I believe we had the best first XI outside of the top 4 and we haven't been able to play that for some time. I still think only City can now boast a better XI and even then you can't put a price on a proper 'team' that works well together. We over achieved when we finished 4th, our recent achievements have been fully merited.

good post that mate. a team can always look good on paper, it's just how it gel's really, our team looks like one of the best in the league now but will we be successful?? time will tell!!

 

[Matty]

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?Neville_hits_out_at_Citys_pursuit_of_Lescott&in_article_id=712101&in_page_id=43

MUPPET!!

"There are ways and means of doing things - and Everton do it the right way."

No Phil, there are ways and means of doing things - and Everton do it the only way open to them." If Everton had a seemingly infinite amount of money then they too would be looking at players who are at or near their peak and trying to build a title winning side. They don't so they have to conduct themselves a different way in the transfer market.

Yet more bullshit from someone wtih no grasp on reality and no clue how modern football actually works.

 

[alera]

I love teh comment that Everton will be signign 4 or 5 more players even though itts clear they have no money to spend unless Lescott is sold.

They couldnt even scrape the £5 million together to sign a championship fullback with 40 games under his belt !

 

[paul_blue]

"There are ways and means of doing things - and Everton do it the right way."

Thats the line that made me piss... typical Neville comment!!

 

[Rammy Blue]

I like Phil Neville, could do a job for us as cover in a few different positions.

sure a 10mil bid would snare him.

 

[johnmc]

You can't consistently punch above your weight.

 

[brass neck]

im putting money on everton going down this year. fragile squad if they loose lescott to us.

 

[Balti]

I like Phil Neville, could do a job for us as cover in a few different positions.

sure a 10mil bid would snare him.

Very funny.

 

[auction294]

You can't consistently punch above your weight.

okay, I'll rephrase that. They have consistantly been lucky as I really don't think they are that great a side.

 

[Darker shade of Blue]

You can't consistently punch above your weight.

okay, I'll rephrase that. They have consistantly been lucky as I really don't think they are that great a side.

Which part of your line of thought has a barrier up just as you are about to write ' they have consistently been the 5th best team in the league ' ?
It's not like you would be telling lies after all .

BTW .... Need to get some work done , but here's a picture from last night :

He doesn't look like he wants to leave to me :o)

 

[@BluePhil8]

which are what exactly? am i correct in thinking that you have won jack all in the 21st century?

It's these short sighted comments that make a discussion difficult .

It does doesn't it, but it's comments like these:

So far , we've managed to turn very little into something special , and yes , it won't always work , especially when other teams can afford to buy a finished article , whilst we tend to find potential and develop it .

That essentially make every one on hear think that all evrton fans are willy's. Is that actually some way to imply that we just buy players and have a bad youth set up? looks like it, but thats clearly wrong as we have the best youth set up in the country probably, nedum, steve, micah, johnson, sturridge, hart are all shining examples, but when thinking about evrton i can only think of rodwell... who IMO isnt good.

 

[ifiwasarichfan]

With the greatest respect to DSOB and the other Everton posters on the Forum. Lescott is not worth a penny more than what has been already offered. I know he is a good player, can chip in with Goals and can cover at Left Back. However at the end of the day he is only an England squad player and he will never be more than that. He just does not have either the ability or the potential to get any better. I think now is the time strategically to walk away from this. £18M will buy a hell of a Centre Back from the Continent if Hughes and the scouting network have done their homework carefully.

At the same time perhaps a non-deal would weaken Everton dramatically. As fans from both camps have agreed Everton's total sum is more than the value of their parts and they are an over acheiving Club. By leaving Lescott where he is straight away one of their biggest players realises he has missed the Boat, Or in this case the "Gravy Train". Therefore a slightly disgruntled player on Moyes's hands. All their other saleable assets with major injuries. Yakubu, Arteta and Jagielka.Also It has already been pointed out that Everton could not afford a promising full back from Sheffield United; therefore no money in the kitty. I just cant see how they can finish Top six.

A final point. None of the Sky 4 or Villa or Spurs have ever expressed any interest in Lescott that speaks volumes in itself.

 

[Timbobs]

okay, I'll rephrase that. They have consistantly been lucky as I really don't think they are that great a side.

Which part of your line of thought has a barrier up just as you are about to write ' they have consistently been the 5th best team in the league ' ?
It's not like you would be telling lies after all .

BTW .... Need to get some work done , but here's a picture from last night :

He doesn't look like he wants to leave to me :o)

He's simply laughing at this being the best trophy Everton can muster ;)

 

[auction294]

okay, I'll rephrase that. They have consistantly been lucky as I really don't think they are that great a side.

Which part of your line of thought has a barrier up just as you are about to write ' they have consistently been the 5th best team in the league ' ?
It's not like you would be telling lies after all .

BTW .... Need to get some work done , but here's a picture from last night :

He doesn't look like he wants to leave to me :o)

Lescott leaves you or not, I really don't care.

In my best 'allo , allo accent. I shall say this only once. "I really don't think Everton are that good."

So you've finished high in the league a couple of seasons, in my opinion you've been lucky. Shit happens. Personally I belive the bus will lose it's wheels this year, or very soon if major investment is not achieved.

 

[Darker shade of Blue]

It's these short sighted comments that make a discussion difficult .

It does doesn't it, but it's comments like these:

So far , we've managed to turn very little into something special , and yes , it won't always work , especially when other teams can afford to buy a finished article , whilst we tend to find potential and develop it .

That essentially make every one on hear think that all evrton fans are willy's. Is that actually some way to imply that we just buy players and have a bad youth set up? looks like it, but thats clearly wrong as we have the best youth set up in the country probably, nedum, steve, micah, johnson, sturridge, hart are all shining examples, but when thinking about evrton i can only think of rodwell... who IMO isnt good.

If you must quote someone , perhaps quote their FULL post and highlight the bits you want to respond to , as opposed to trying to make something look out of context .
Cheers .