Libyan "rebels" show their gratitude

[MadchesterCity]

sad but not shocked, these people have no shame! I wish them a long painful death for their sins

 

[ElanJo]

I don't know what a "sage" quote would look like. The above quote may not be catchy or found in a fortune cookie but it's honest, relevant and based in reality -despite it coming from Reagan.

Reality? The Middle East is not irrational to anyone who can understand its complexities, how they interact and also those who view Palestine as an injustice to be rectified rather than a peace to be negotiated. Reagan never came close because he wasn't that interested. He was the laziest President in history until Bush Jnr. Always taking days off and spending more times watching cartoons than being briefed.

There can be no rational politics when they're based upon irrational holy books. It may be internally rational to blow yourself up in order to enter paradise (hense the danger of religion) but it's not rational. What sums it up is that they do not want us there even in cases where it is objectively beneficial to them.
What we tend to have a problem with is realising that those english-speaking, well dressed Arabs we see being interviewed on BBC and ITN are not in any way, shape or form, representative of these countries. We think we can take their words and superimpose them over millions/billions of Muslims. It's insane.
Maybe I should listen more to Sage Galloway tho ;)

 

[Skashion]

There can be no rational politics when they're based upon irrational holy books. It may be internally rational to blow yourself up in order to enter paradise (hense the danger of religion) but it's not rational. What sums it up is that they do not want us there even in cases where it is objectively beneficial to them.
What we tend to have a problem with is realising that those english-speaking, well dressed Arabs we see being interviewed on BBC and ITN are not in any way, shape or form, representative of these countries. We think we can take their words and superimpose them over millions/billions of Muslims. It's insane.
Maybe I should listen more to Sage Galloway tho ;)

Definitely better off listening to Galloway than this spiel.

 

[ElanJo]

There can be no rational politics when they're based upon irrational holy books. It may be internally rational to blow yourself up in order to enter paradise (hense the danger of religion) but it's not rational. What sums it up is that they do not want us there even in cases where it is objectively beneficial to them.
What we tend to have a problem with is realising that those english-speaking, well dressed Arabs we see being interviewed on BBC and ITN are not in any way, shape or form, representative of these countries. We think we can take their words and superimpose them over millions/billions of Muslims. It's insane.
Maybe I should listen more to Sage Galloway tho ;)

Definitely better off listening to Galloway than this spiel.

Sure, especially if your first thought on reading a quote is to check for party memberships

 

[Skashion]

Sure, especially if your first thought on reading a quote is to check for party memberships

I thought you could sound no more stupid today but accusing me of being partisan is just about there.

 

[uglifrog]

Ignorant savages should get to work on clearing up their shit hole of a country, they will be begging the west for more aid because they've spent more time doing shit like this than helping themselves.

 

[ElanJo]

Sure, especially if your first thought on reading a quote is to check for party memberships

I thought you could sound no more stupid today but accusing me of being partisan is just about there.

Today has been my best work.

Prick! ;)

 

[BrianW]

It's a dodgy business messing about in other people's countries, especially ones where the culture is so different to our own. You can't really overthrow governments without killing people, and the minute you do that you just create even more hatred and grievances.

On the whole, we'd be better leaving them well alone. Because we are not prepared, financially or morally, to do a complete job. (Which would involve disarming everyone and putting the whole bunch though the equivalent of the de-nazification exercise done on Germany after the war.) Half a job is worse than none - you just change the nutty crank in charge, that's all.

 

[cinnamon blue]

Scumbags should have left gaddafi to it !

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

when will we learn that today's ''allies'' are tomorrow's enemy?