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Lionel Messi | Joins Inter Miami (pg4111)
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01cravend
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What is the team like without Messi? More balanced? Better defensively?
Any team without Messi is weaker than with him. Last night they were very balanced all over the pitch, they were in command throughout and had good energy/pressing even late into the match
Balancing a team around Messi has been absent over several seasons. Drop some deadweight (Griezmann & Coutinho) and add a #9, LB and Xavi
01cravend
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The problem might be that you are trying to build your team around an aging player to keep him at his most effective. It should be the other way around, he should be adjusting to the transition from your golden era into the next one, yet you keep throwing 100s of millions of pounds at players who look brilliant in the team before you then a shadow of themselves when they play for MessiFC. They don't suddenly become bad players, I'd have Griezmann here tomorrow, they merely get thrown in as pawns sacrificed to protect your king. I mean imagine wanting to do things like track runners and press all game when Messi walks around the pitch out of possession.
@01cravend Very reasoned pov, just not the one the club (at least Laporta) or myself would prefer. Always better to have the best in the world in your team, even at 33
There's a great tweet showing his evolving heatmap over the last 15 seasons - he's still a focal point despite moving initially from right winger to his most ideal position as an enganche
The millions of wasted money were effectively on Coutinho & Griezmann and neither were bought to build around Leo but thought to be players that could take the #10 position away - speaks to my earlier point that sports planning has been atrocious due to incompetence in building a team. I don't think Antoine is a bad player but I also see a player who has been unable to raise his game playing with the best, even if out of position. Griezmann's best position is where Messi plays and I can't think of a coach/club in the world that would choose the Frenchman over Messi. No positional changes can make a difference in how poor he has been in terms of finishing. Even walking, Messi influences matches like no other - even at 33
There's a great tweet showing his evolving heatmap over the last 15 seasons - he's still a focal point despite moving initially from right winger to his most ideal position as an enganche
The millions of wasted money were effectively on Coutinho & Griezmann and neither were bought to build around Leo but thought to be players that could take the #10 position away - speaks to my earlier point that sports planning has been atrocious due to incompetence in building a team. I don't think Antoine is a bad player but I also see a player who has been unable to raise his game playing with the best, even if out of position. Griezmann's best position is where Messi plays and I can't think of a coach/club in the world that would choose the Frenchman over Messi. No positional changes can make a difference in how poor he has been in terms of finishing. Even walking, Messi influences matches like no other - even at 33
You saying he would have shone against West Brom ;)
Lionel Messi causes "surprise" by outlining "concrete plans for the future"
Lionel Messi's future at Barcelona is still up in the air, and the club's poor form this season has done little to convince him to stay, prompting him to speak out about his next move
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right on queue, more snippet leaks from the interview. Hardly anything to go off, but i see journalists are already taking the quote that 'he has outlined clear plans' as issued a list of demands to stay at barcelona, and even handed laporta a 'blacklist' of players he wants rid of.
Not talking about a cut. Talking about not getting a raise. The difference of money available would just be the reduced amount of money needede to amortize his contract.
Anyway, we are talking gibberish right now as Messi won't sign for PSG.
simon23
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I cant imagine he will jump straight to the MLS as that article seems to hint....but maybe he is just sick of it all and wants to finish his career in ease - if he comes to us (or the prem) then it is just more stress from the press etc etc so then again maybeLionel Messi causes "surprise" by outlining "concrete plans for the future"
Lionel Messi's future at Barcelona is still up in the air, and the club's poor form this season has done little to convince him to stay, prompting him to speak out about his next move
right on queue, more snippet leaks from the interview. Hardly anything to go off, but i see journalists are already taking the quote that 'he has outlined clear plans' as issued a list of demands to stay at barcelona, and even handed laporta a 'blacklist' of players he wants rid of.
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