waspish said:Who'd you rather have Messi or Pellegrini? ;)))
To be honest I thought it was a strange one, but couldn't resist....it would be nice if we could get him here and test the winter night against Stoke quandary though ;8)noirish said:big blueballs said:Why do people trot out this tired old line....he won't be able to hack it blah blah blah...Messi is the greatest player to put a pair of boots on....he can play in the cold as well you know....and Stoke wouldn't be able to get near him....if he came to us which I do highly doubt but hope I am wrong he would be a phenomenon and would continue to show why he is the greatest player evernoirish said:Not physical enough for the Premier League and will find it difficult to score away against Stoke on a winter's night.
Clearly, the irony in my post wasn't obvious, sorry about that :)
Also, we never seem to play in the league at the Britannia in the Winter either, at least in the last four years ;-)noirish said:big blueballs said:Why do people trot out this tired old line....he won't be able to hack it blah blah blah...Messi is the greatest player to put a pair of boots on....he can play in the cold as well you know....and Stoke wouldn't be able to get near him....if he came to us which I do highly doubt but hope I am wrong he would be a phenomenon and would continue to show why he is the greatest player evernoirish said:Not physical enough for the Premier League and will find it difficult to score away against Stoke on a winter's night.
Clearly, the irony in my post wasn't obvious, sorry about that :)
gordondaviesmoustache said:Also, we never seem to play in the league at the Britannia in the Winter either, at least in the last four years ;-)noirish said:big blueballs said:Why do people trot out this tired old line....he won't be able to hack it blah blah blah...Messi is the greatest player to put a pair of boots on....he can play in the cold as well you know....and Stoke wouldn't be able to get near him....if he came to us which I do highly doubt but hope I am wrong he would be a phenomenon and would continue to show why he is the greatest player ever
Clearly, the irony in my post wasn't obvious, sorry about that :)
No, and neither have we.......hope i am wrong thoughDanamy said:blue underpants said:CobblersGXCity said:A few of us posted on here in the summer that it was a possibility and it appears that the press are picking up on it now. Sorriano kick started the Barca revival with Ronaldinho and maybe this is his attempt at putting us in a similar position.
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Northampton Town have got no chance in signing him?
Prestwich_Blue said:He's 'only' actually on £250k a week wages, the rest is image rights and commercial sponsorships which come with him. However it's still a lot of money and while it's not conclusive proof, this possibly explains why we're pruning our wage bill dramatically.
I dropped some hints the other day but here's the story as I understand it. The Messi camp weren't happy about Barca's proposed acquisition of Neymar, which was planned for next summer after the World Cup, and put out feelers. It was discussed with the owners and our major commercial partners and a deal was sanctioned. In addition, we stuck our oar in the Neymar deal, putting the word out that we were seriously interested. We weren't but it helped panic Barca and they had to do the deal a year early and for more than was planned.
They're also obviously aware of what's going on with Messi and they're not happy with us, to put it mildly. If you look back in January, Rosell was sounding off about us "poaching staff and players at all levels of the club". They were also accusing Soriano of monitoring staff emails (which he's perfectly entitled to do). They were even more pissed off when we approached Pellegrini as they were also considering him. That's how they knew we'd met him, not because the meeting was in public, as people on here were blaming the Dos Amigos for. To get revenge, they waited until the eve of the Cup Final to release the stories, in order to cause us maximum problems, which it did. So, again, accusing the City hierarchy of mismanaging the situation was wide of the mark. We knew Mancini was going and Mancini knew he was going; it just all happened a few days earlier than planned because of the leak from Spain.
The plan (from our side) was to try to do the deal this summer, having effectively engineered the Neymar move a year early but then the tax case hit and put the mockers on that. I've no proof but I'd bet a pound to a penny it was Barca who were responsible for that. If so, it would certainly indicate they were worried about losing him but having done that, it was effectively the severing of their relationship and, as people have said, he just hasn't seemed like the same player this season.
I also found it a little odd that having trailed a £20m a year deal with Nike, it was announced recently as only £12m. I did wonder on here if some of that was being withheld pending something else triggering the rest.
The only thing is, with any transfer, it's not done until the ink is dry on the contract but I'm convinced that there's enough in place for it to happen. Next summer, we'll probably clear Milner, Lescott & Barry off the wage bill, plus a couple of others and that's easily enough to pay Messi, plus Tom Glick's hand will get sore from signing commercial deals.
CC1 said:Prestwich_Blue said:He's 'only' actually on £250k a week wages, the rest is image rights and commercial sponsorships which come with him. However it's still a lot of money and while it's not conclusive proof, this possibly explains why we're pruning our wage bill dramatically.
I dropped some hints the other day but here's the story as I understand it. The Messi camp weren't happy about Barca's proposed acquisition of Neymar, which was planned for next summer after the World Cup, and put out feelers. It was discussed with the owners and our major commercial partners and a deal was sanctioned. In addition, we stuck our oar in the Neymar deal, putting the word out that we were seriously interested. We weren't but it helped panic Barca and they had to do the deal a year early and for more than was planned.
They're also obviously aware of what's going on with Messi and they're not happy with us, to put it mildly. If you look back in January, Rosell was sounding off about us "poaching staff and players at all levels of the club". They were also accusing Soriano of monitoring staff emails (which he's perfectly entitled to do). They were even more pissed off when we approached Pellegrini as they were also considering him. That's how they knew we'd met him, not because the meeting was in public, as people on here were blaming the Dos Amigos for. To get revenge, they waited until the eve of the Cup Final to release the stories, in order to cause us maximum problems, which it did. So, again, accusing the City hierarchy of mismanaging the situation was wide of the mark. We knew Mancini was going and Mancini knew he was going; it just all happened a few days earlier than planned because of the leak from Spain.
The plan (from our side) was to try to do the deal this summer, having effectively engineered the Neymar move a year early but then the tax case hit and put the mockers on that. I've no proof but I'd bet a pound to a penny it was Barca who were responsible for that. If so, it would certainly indicate they were worried about losing him but having done that, it was effectively the severing of their relationship and, as people have said, he just hasn't seemed like the same player this season.
I also found it a little odd that having trailed a £20m a year deal with Nike, it was announced recently as only £12m. I did wonder on here if some of that was being withheld pending something else triggering the rest.
The only thing is, with any transfer, it's not done until the ink is dry on the contract but I'm convinced that there's enough in place for it to happen. Next summer, we'll probably clear Milner, Lescott & Barry off the wage bill, plus a couple of others and that's easily enough to pay Messi, plus Tom Glick's hand will get sore from signing commercial deals.
This all sounds really possible but the only thing that worries me is what about the required number of home grown/English players we have to have? We seem to be going down the road of ditching all the recognised England players which I find disappointing - especially those players that would walk into any Premier League team such as Joe. I'd be interested in your views on this point