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dan05delaney said:
Warning this is a long post but I think it covers a lot of topic and i've tried to look at it from a few aspects

If the club are seriously looking at the funds then I think this might be a fun few weeks, its been said before that if Messi was available then the funds would be there for the contracts.

The club could pull off the most talked about transfer in history (after Scott Carson) and we could possibly get the most well known player of a generation, the club would be automatically be the most talked about club and everyone in the league / Europe / the world would be wanting to see what happens

On the pitch you could say he's had his worst goal scoring season, at only...

25 Goals in the league (more than any of our squad last season
2 Goals in Copa Del Ray (Equal to our highest scorer in the FA Cup)
3 goals in Europe (Would've been our 3rd highest scorer)
and 1 in the Spanish Super Cup

31 Goals in total in a poor season with a declining team is still equal to Sterling (our highest goal scorer) best season, so to have someone who has scored 630+ goals get on to even half of the chances we create would still be a very high scoring player, add that just the players having a chance to train with him, for Phil Foden and the other youngsters to train with him every day would be worth it.

I'd expect every single sponsorship deal the club has to be renegotiated and wouldn't be surprised if Puma revised their deal just to try get him in a kit and the Etihad deal could again go up a large chunk, When that Person joined Juve (the only deal which would be close to this) Jeep valued the exposure he gave them just by wearing a kit at $58.3 million a season and increased their deal with the club from 17 million euros to 42 million per season. Adidas renewed their contract after 6 months of him being there doubling the previous payments from 23.25 million euros to 51 million per annum ( an interesting read here about the numbers behind that deal https://www.goal.com/en/news/the-ro...ne-for-the-juventus/y2io1bd9hyv0100m35astqwxz )

We also live in a world where who knows what is going to happen with fans in the stadium, so we all don't want the club to put prices up so if Messi coming helps get an extra 10 sponsors and an extra £100m of revenue then good, Quality coupled with popularity enables a club to increase its revenue, which would be the biggest thing, that exposure, we have to admit we live in a world of influencers and social media, so clubs would look at how that is being used and what players are the biggest influence, looking at the Deloitte money league from this year our most "influential" player on social media... Gabriel Jesus 14.1m, look at Messi as of right now that is 164.3m followers, that is more individual accounts than the entire clubs social media outlets combined, in turn we're getting the kids wanting City kits with Messi on them, wanting to watch Man City, to companies wanting to be associated with the club and City that then taking City from the 5th or 6th Biggest revenue in world football to 4th / 3rd and only getting bigger.

TL:DR In the eyes of the club this could be a deal too good to miss, we've tried for him at least twice before, he doesn't want more money (he's worth £300m+) he wants a sporting project, he's told Pep he wants to work with him again, (https://theathletic.co.uk/1588411/2020/02/06/manchester-city-messi-barcelona-transfer/)

Plus this would be the biggest and best way to boil some piss and watch the press scramble over themselves
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Dont get me wrong, I would love to see Messi sign. If as you're suggesting that all the clubs sponsorships would be renegotiated then why are Barcelona struggling financially.
 
robbieh said:
If Messi was stationed in Mahrez's position wide right our opponents would be way more worried to the extent they'd have an extra man on him. We'd have an overload somewhere else on the pitch.

I agree we'd have to adjust a bit to accommodate him but he'd cause havoc and all our attacking players would be in more space.
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Hope you're right mate.
As it is, i don't think there's any chance this will go through
 
hihosilva said:
Dont get me wrong, I would love to see Messi sign. If as you're suggesting that all the clubs sponsorships would be renegotiated then why are Barcelona struggling financially.
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I don't know, but would guess all Barcelona's deals have been in place while Messi was already there, but also their problems come from other failed expensive deals like Dembele, Greizman, Coutinho.
 
hihosilva said:
Dont get me wrong, I would love to see Messi sign. If as you're suggesting that all the clubs sponsorships would be renegotiated then why are Barcelona struggling financially.
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They burnt through over 300m just on Greiz, Dembele and Coutinho. One is on the bench, one is in the stands and the other just knocked them out of the CL. Don't really need to look much further than that.
 
Could CFG buy him ? At his age and cost would it not make sense then he could play a few years here then move to the MLS China Australia or South America etc
 
hihosilva said:
Dont get me wrong, I would love to see Messi sign. If as you're suggesting that all the clubs sponsorships would be renegotiated then why are Barcelona struggling financially.
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Multiple reasons, they are estimated to be losing €154m because of Covid and Camp Nou being shut they have been paying most of their squad stupid wages for years
Frenkie de Jong £360,000 a week, Luis Suarez £405,000 a week etc... with an alleged yearly wage bill of £438 million.as a percentage of overall revenue that is around 69%

They have done some very poor deals Ousmane Dembele, Philippe Coutinho, Antoine Griezmann, just to name a few all big players on big wages without getting rid of big earners to make space, they had Neymar who was supposed to be Messi's long term replacement but they were forced to cash in and the poor investment is now showing,

All our sponsorships would be renegotiated for us because it would be a big coup,and a new revenue stream as far as we know all Barca sponsors are already at the max of what they are willing to pay and they have milked that cash cow for as much as they can, having done some reading and because of Barcelona's debt they have been asking sponsors for cash up front this is going to have a knock on with what companies are willing or have the ability to stump up that cash, they took out an €800m loan a few months ago to cover their debt and the structure of them means that whenever there are elections the current president has to leave them debt free for the next or they have to cover the costs so Bartomeu would have to pay out of pocket to service these debts (feel free to correct me if I am wrong on this and someone knows better)
 
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mosssideblue said:
Wouldn't that cost be offset by sponsors etc?
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I know that's the argument, but again I have my doubts, Messi in a Barca shirt is iconic, he is Mr Barca, but he been for over 10 years, do the younger kids now identify with him? Us old farts do without doubt but we are not the ones the sponsors are interested in.

Ea Sports and the Fifa franchise is a case in point . Whatever you think of Fifa , their marketing is outstanding, Messi was the face of that game for a long time, no longer. Mbappe is now their man, why, because to the kids and young adults , Mbappe is the future.

Would Etihad or any other company contribute 200/300k a week to have a picture of Messi in a city shirt? Again , I am genuinely not sure.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
I'd be amazed if Barca didn't want one of our players in exchange plus cash, Bernardo as well as Garcia could be gone.
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Whoa whoa whoa. Haud Awn a minute!

It is one thig to debate a hypothetical would messi be great/right for us (the basic impossibilityof it aside). But at the expense of giving them Bernardo? No fucking chance, wouldn't swap them for anything! in that scenario, they would strengthen, we would weaken, without a doubt. Maybe not immediately, but certainly over the course of a couple years, and beyond that.
 
Keeper! said:
I know that's the argument, but again I have my doubts, Messi in a Barca shirt is iconic, he is Mr Barca, but he been for over 10 years, do the younger kids now identify with him? Us old farts do without doubt but we are not the ones the sponsors are interested in.

Ea Sports and the Fifa franchise is a case in point . Whatever you think of Fifa , their marketing is outstanding, Messi was the face of that game for a long time, no longer. Mbappe is now their man, why, because to the kids and young adults , Mbappe is the future.
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we can't fucking sign Mbappe. End of.
 
Keeper! said:
I know that's the argument, but again I have my doubts, Messi in a Barca shirt is iconic, he is Mr Barca, but he been for over 10 years, do the younger kids now identify with him? Us old farts do without doubt but we are not the ones the sponsors are interested in.

Ea Sports and the Fifa franchise is a case in point . Whatever you think of Fifa , their marketing is outstanding, Messi was the face of that game for a long time, no longer. Mbappe is now their man, why, because to the kids and young adults , Mbappe is the future.

Would Etihad of any other company contribute 200/300k a week to have a picture of Messi in a city shirt? Again , I am genuinely not sure.
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Im not savvy enough to know the ins and outs of corporate sponsorship negotiating and deals, so have no argument to put back to you.

Mbappe is clearly the new kid on the block but still has to have the longevity of Messi et al to become similarly iconic I would have thought.
 
Keeper! said:
Ea Sports and the Fifa franchise is a case in point . Whatever you think of Fifa , their marketing is outstanding, Messi was the face of that game for a long time, no longer. Mbappe is now their man, why, because to the kids and young adults , Mbappe is the future.
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Messi hasn't been on a Fifa cover since 2016, since then there has been Reus, Ronaldo, Hazard, now Mbappe, Fifa just pick who is going to be marketable that year, but you look on the game and he is still one of the most in demand and highest rated players that people are paying just to try and get in their team,
 
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