Lionel Messi | Joins Inter Miami (pg4111)

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Coatigan said:
Including 9 goals and 2 assists from non-competitive matches is doing just that. Those have never counted to players' numbers. Add to that excluding Haaland's international goals in an actual competition, yes, it is exactly what it is. It is dishonest. And has been pointed out before and all.
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I meant one can report the numbers in any which way, he still posts impressive numbers. Easily a top 10 player in the world at this moment even with not playing a lick of defense. I'm not suggesting we should bring him aboard, but if by some chance we did, I wouldn't be pouting about it...just sayin'.
 
JewelZee said:
I meant one can report the numbers in any which way, he still posts impressive numbers. Easily a top 10 player in the world at this moment even with not playing a lick of defense.
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Oh that is one thing that I can wholeheartedly agree on, and wasn't debating, he is a great player, has throughout his career had incredible numbers, and even in this below standard season, that happens to be the case.

But the poster went out of his way to further inflate Messi's goal contributions. But 51 goals and assists, in all possible competitions and competative internationals is still pretty damn impressive. Just not as impressive as Haaland's 70 goal contributions.
 
Coatigan said:
Would you bet on that? I hope you are right of course, and I'd very much like to see him stay in Europe. But I think he will follow the money, unfortunately. Just like Ronaldo did.
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It doesn't depend on Messi, unfortunately. If it were up to him, he would have already signed with Barca, but La Liga just won't allow it.

Folks saying "well, why Messi just doesn't play for free?" have no idea how this thing works. La Liga has rules that limit the amount of paycut a player can take according to their previous contract. Messi is willing to accept this absolute minimum, but even for that Barca still can't afford him. They have to make some major moves to add Messi.
 
River Plate said:
It doesn't depend on Messi, unfortunately. If it were up to him, he would have already signed with Barca, but La Liga just won't allow it.

Folks saying "well, why Messi just doesn't play for free?" have no idea how this thing works. La Liga has rules that limit the amount of paycut a player can take according to their previous contract. Messi is willing to accept this absolute minimum, but even for that Barca still can't afford him. They have to make some major moves to add Messi.
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Didn't answer my question though.

Yeah the playing for free arguement is daft, I agree with you there. But you are also falling for some good hearsay propaganda. Besides, Messi hasn't had a contract with Barcelona in over 2 years now, so he could sign for whatever amount (not free), they agree on. As with any club in Europe.

You seem so sure he won't go for the money, where do you expect him to go? I'd love it if you were right, and he chose football. Don't think it will happen.
 
Messi, Ronaldo & Benzema, all with something still to offer but going to the wastelands of Saudi football instead for money only.
 
We are his best chance to win another Champions League in his career (he has 4, can match Ronaldo with 5), maybe also come close to breaking the goal record of the tournament (11 away from Ronaldo, it will take him more than one season to do that) An exciting union with Pep, for one season, I'm in.
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
We are his best chance to win another Champions League in his career (he has 4, can match Ronaldo with 5), maybe also come close to breaking the goal record of the tournament (11 away from Ronaldo, it will take him more than one season to do that) An exciting union with Pep, for one season, I'm in.
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I'm not and doubt the club are.
 
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When/if Barca sign Messi, they wont be able to afford much more than that if they dont sell. Xavi was clear that they needed a rb and a dm... No way i can see that project attracting Gundo (hence signing a deal). They've got Gavi, Pedri, FDJ and so on... They can grab Cancelo though if they want
 
Coatigan said:
Didn't answer my question though.

Yeah the playing for free arguement is daft, I agree with you there. But you are also falling for some good hearsay propaganda. Besides, Messi hasn't had a contract with Barcelona in over 2 years now, so he could sign for whatever amount (not free), they agree on. As with any club in Europe.

You seem so sure he won't go for the money, where do you expect him to go? I'd love it if you were right, and he chose football. Don't think it will happen.
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Apparently that isn't the case at all. I can't tell you for sure because I really don't know, but the reports coming from Spain say that Messi can't sign for less than an "X" amount of money established by La Liga, no matter if Messi and Barca come to terms on a lesser fee.

How does that work? I don't know, but apparently that's how the thing works over there.

And about Messi not following the money, it is simple: he would have already agreed to that 1 billion contract if that were the case. If not, why would Messi's father be in Barcelona today, trying to solve the situation and sign with Barca? A Barca team that, we all know, won't be able to even come close to pay Messi that kind of money.
 
River Plate said:
Apparently that isn't the case at all. I can't tell you for sure because I really don't know, but the reports coming from Spain say that Messi can't sign for less than an "X" amount of money established by La Liga, no matter if Messi and Barca come to terms on a lesser fee.

How does that work? I don't know, but apparently that's how the thing works over there.

And about Messi not following the money, it is simple: he would have already agreed to that 1 billion contract if that were the case. If not, why would Messi's father be in Barcelona today, trying to solve the situation and sign with Barca? A Barca team that, we all know, won't be able to even come close to pay Messi that kind of money.
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Well then I dare comfortably guess the reports coming from Spain are horseshit. As they usually tend to be.

I can see there being a limit to how much of a pay cut an employee can take, in general, to protect people from being exploited. But Messi's contract with Barcelona finished over 2 years ago, I find it completely illogical that it has any relevance to the wage he could agree now.

You seem confident and fair play to you. As I keep saying, rather you were right. I expect him to go for the money. I'd love to be wrong. Time wil tell.
 
River Plate said:
Apparently that isn't the case at all. I can't tell you for sure because I really don't know, but the reports coming from Spain say that Messi can't sign for less than an "X" amount of money established by La Liga, no matter if Messi and Barca come to terms on a lesser fee.

How does that work? I don't know, but apparently that's how the thing works over there.

And about Messi not following the money, it is simple: he would have already agreed to that 1 billion contract if that were the case. If not, why would Messi's father be in Barcelona today, trying to solve the situation and sign with Barca? A Barca team that, we all know, won't be able to even come close to pay Messi that kind of money.
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That's how it worked when he was still at Barca and negotiating a new contract.
Not sure if applies now.
 
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