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I wonder if it is possible for a man to be feted as much as Messi, holding as much power and influence within a leading football club - and beyond - as he does, and not to turn into a complete egomaniac and control freak.

It's not a criticism of him - I know I'd be utterly unbearable if I ever became famous - more an observation of the human condition.

He is, I believe, by nature, quite a diffident individual. I expect his inherent growth problems may have compounded that at one point. If reports are to be believed he has become a bit of a diva of late.

Give a man unfettered power and it must change his disposition enormously, possibly to an unrecognisable extent. It can't be a good thing to have no-one to tell you that you're being a dick.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I wonder if it is possible for a man to be feted as much as Messi, holding as much power and influence within a leading football club - and beyond - as he does, and not to turn into a complete egomaniac and control freak.

It's not a criticism of him - I know I'd be utterly unbearable if I ever became famous - more an observation of the human condition.

He is, I believe, by nature, quite a diffident individual. I expect his inherent growth problems may have compounded that at one point. If reports are to be believed he has become a bit of a diva of late.

Give a man unfettered power and it must change his disposition enormously, possibly to an unrecognisable extent. It can't be a good thing to have no-one to tell you that you're being a dick.

When did you become famous Gordon?
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I wonder if it is possible for a man to be feted as much as Messi, holding as much power and influence within a leading football club - and beyond - as he does, and not to turn into a complete egomaniac and control freak.

It's not a criticism of him - I know I'd be even more utterly unbearable if I ever became famous - more an observation of the human condition.

He is, I believe, by nature, quite a diffident individual. I expect his inherent growth problems may have compounded that at one point. If reports are to be believed he has become a bit of a diva of late.

Give a man unfettered power and it must change his disposition enormously, possibly to an unrecognisable extent. It can't be a good thing to have no-one to tell you that you're being a dick.

When did you become famous Gordon?
Fixed it, Paul.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I wonder if it is possible for a man to be feted as much as Messi, holding as much power and influence within a leading football club - and beyond - as he does, and not to turn into a complete egomaniac and control freak.

It's not a criticism of him - I know I'd be even more utterly unbearable if I ever became famous - more an observation of the human condition.

He is, I believe, by nature, quite a diffident individual. I expect his inherent growth problems may have compounded that at one point. If reports are to be believed he has become a bit of a diva of late.

Give a man unfettered power and it must change his disposition enormously, possibly to an unrecognisable extent. It can't be a good thing to have no-one to tell you that you're being a dick.

When did you become famous Gordon?
Fixed it, Paul.

As much as you have a point there are exceptions, not everyone becomes a egotistical twat. I know its not football but I think of Sachin Tendulkar, who was worshiped like a god by a population of a billion, in a way far more fanatical than Messi is worshiped, he could have done anything he wanted, become a right diva but didnt. Also could have developed issues from being too small but didnt, rose to become one of the greatest batsmen of all time (statistically the greatest) and a really nice down to earth person. Apparently the way fame effected him the most was that he has had to be a bit of a recluse, as going out would turn into a frenzy, so most of the time he mills around his mansion in his slippers.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I wonder if it is possible for a man to be feted as much as Messi, holding as much power and influence within a leading football club - and beyond - as he does, and not to turn into a complete egomaniac and control freak.

It's not a criticism of him - I know I'd be utterly unbearable if I ever became famous - more an observation of the human condition.

He is, I believe, by nature, quite a diffident individual. I expect his inherent growth problems may have compounded that at one point. If reports are to be believed he has become a bit of a diva of late.

Give a man unfettered power and it must change his disposition enormously, possibly to an unrecognisable extent. It can't be a good thing to have no-one to tell you that you're being a dick.

Agreed re Messi. However, it seems for your sake, one of us will simply have to do this -

you're being a dick mate.

;)
 
Perhaps he's bored of playing in the Champions League?

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Lionel Messi has alerted Manchester United to his potential availability by casting doubt over his future at Barcelona, with the Argentina forward admitting he does not know where he will be playing next year.

United are the only English club that could afford to buy Messi, particularly if Barcelona were to demand his €250m (£195m) buyout fee in one payment, which would be likely.

Although Manchester City have explored bringing the 27-year-old from Barcelona and retain an interest in him, Uefa’s financial fair play rules mean the champions would struggle to generate enough revenue and have the requisite cash reserves to buy the four-times world player of the year.

This is not the case at United, where Louis van Gaal has been assured there is no limit on the transfer budget. Ed Woodward, the executive vice-chairman, stated in July: “Whether it’s a [world] record or not doesn’t really resonate with us. What resonates is an elite player that the manager wants who is going to be a star for Manchester United.”

Alongside the buyout clause is Messi’s five-year contract, agreed last May, worth £16.3m a season. When this salary is factored in, the total cost of any deal for his transfer would be in the region of an eye-watering £275m.

Real Madrid are the only club who appear able to rival United’s financial muscle – Paris Saint-Germain would also have the restrictions of FFP to consider – but it seems inconceivable Messi would end up at Barcelona’s fiercest rival.

Messi was asked in Zurich before the Ballon d’Or ceremony, at which he finished second to Cristiano Ronaldo, whether he would be interested in playing at another club, having also turned out, as a youth, for Newell’s Old Boys in Argentina. “I am not sure If I will go back to Newell’s Old Boys one day,” he said. “I am not sure where I will be next year. I have always said that I will end my career at Barcelona but as Cristiano said: ‘Only God knows the future.’ Things in football can change overnight.”

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United’s record £750m, 10-year kit deal with Adidas starts next season, meaning the club are guaranteed £75m a season from that contract alone. With Woodward continuing to expand the club’s portfolio of major sponsors and the fan-base claimed at 659 million around the world, United would be confident that Messi’s signing would be financially successful.

Messi’s comment came hours after he said it was “lies” that there had been conversations between his representatives and City and Chelsea. Speaking after a 3-1 win over Atlético Madrid, in which he scored the final goal, Messi told Barça TV: “I don’t demand anything for me to stay because I have no intention of leaving anywhere. I’ve heard stories I’ve spoken to Chelsea or City, that’s all lies.”

The comments came in an attempt to quell speculation of a rift with Luis Enrique, the manager, following a turbulent week in which Messi was on the bench as Barça lost to Real Sociedad and during which Andoni Zubizarreta, the sporting director, was sacked.
 
dannybcity said:
Perhaps he's bored of playing in the Champions League?

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Lionel Messi has alerted Manchester United to his potential availability by casting doubt over his future at Barcelona, with the Argentina forward admitting he does not know where he will be playing next year.

United are the only English club that could afford to buy Messi, particularly if Barcelona were to demand his €250m (£195m) buyout fee in one payment, which would be likely.

Although Manchester City have explored bringing the 27-year-old from Barcelona and retain an interest in him, Uefa’s financial fair play rules mean the champions would struggle to generate enough revenue and have the requisite cash reserves to buy the four-times world player of the year.

This is not the case at United, where Louis van Gaal has been assured there is no limit on the transfer budget. Ed Woodward, the executive vice-chairman, stated in July: “Whether it’s a [world] record or not doesn’t really resonate with us. What resonates is an elite player that the manager wants who is going to be a star for Manchester United.”

Alongside the buyout clause is Messi’s five-year contract, agreed last May, worth £16.3m a season. When this salary is factored in, the total cost of any deal for his transfer would be in the region of an eye-watering £275m.

Real Madrid are the only club who appear able to rival United’s financial muscle – Paris Saint-Germain would also have the restrictions of FFP to consider – but it seems inconceivable Messi would end up at Barcelona’s fiercest rival.

Messi was asked in Zurich before the Ballon d’Or ceremony, at which he finished second to Cristiano Ronaldo, whether he would be interested in playing at another club, having also turned out, as a youth, for Newell’s Old Boys in Argentina. “I am not sure If I will go back to Newell’s Old Boys one day,” he said. “I am not sure where I will be next year. I have always said that I will end my career at Barcelona but as Cristiano said: ‘Only God knows the future.’ Things in football can change overnight.”

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United’s record £750m, 10-year kit deal with Adidas starts next season, meaning the club are guaranteed £75m a season from that contract alone. With Woodward continuing to expand the club’s portfolio of major sponsors and the fan-base claimed at 659 million around the world, United would be confident that Messi’s signing would be financially successful.

Messi’s comment came hours after he said it was “lies” that there had been conversations between his representatives and City and Chelsea. Speaking after a 3-1 win over Atlético Madrid, in which he scored the final goal, Messi told Barça TV: “I don’t demand anything for me to stay because I have no intention of leaving anywhere. I’ve heard stories I’ve spoken to Chelsea or City, that’s all lies.”

The comments came in an attempt to quell speculation of a rift with Luis Enrique, the manager, following a turbulent week in which Messi was on the bench as Barça lost to Real Sociedad and during which Andoni Zubizarreta, the sporting director, was sacked.

"Guaranteed £75 mill a season"..........correct me by all means if I'm wrong,I may well be,but I'm sure I read somewhere,if the rags fail to qualify for CL,that sum drops dramatically,and does so for every competition they get knocked out of...is that right?
 
Jamie Jackson is the epitome of the asinine, rag sycophant, parasite journalists that somehow scrape a living in the English media. He's like one of those bores who only has one interest so they try to circumvent any conversation and mould the dialogue so they can shoehorn their favourite thing back into it, regardless of relevance. eg:

Most Newspapers: 'Manchester City and Chelsea have been alerted to Messi's apparent unrest at Barca!'

Jackson: 'And so have Man United!'

MN: 'I think the only muted clubs linked are Chelsea and City, to be fair. . .'

JJ: 'Well, United could get him easily. And their fanbase is bigger than your fanbase.'

MN: 'Well anyway, it's probably not going to happen, anyway, but you never know. Football's a funny old game.'

JJ: 'Yes it is. Remember when Sir Alex Ferguson said 'Football, bloody football' hahahahahahahahahahah! That was funny wasn't it? Man United are good aren't they? Did you know Man United have the largest fanbase in the world? Did you know Man United have brought through their entire fanbase through their youth academy? . . .**continues ad nauseum until an ulcer/aneurysm occurs**'
 
quiet_riot said:
United are the only English club that could afford to buy Messi, particularly if Barcelona were to demand his €250m (£195m) buyout fee in one payment,


Stopped reading here.
I salute you for soldiering past more than "Jamie Jackson..."
 
Big Yaya Wilko 12 said:
Jamie Jackson is the epitome of the asinine, rag sycophant, parasite journalists that somehow scrape a living in the English media. He's like one of those bores who only has one interest so they try to circumvent any conversation and mould the dialogue so they can shoehorn their favourite thing back into it, regardless of relevance. eg:

Most Newspapers: 'Manchester City and Chelsea have been alerted to Messi's apparent unrest at Barca!'

Jackson: 'And so have Man United!'

MN: 'I think the only muted clubs linked are Chelsea and City, to be fair. . .'

JJ: 'Well, United could get him easily. And their fanbase is bigger than your fanbase.'

MN: 'Well anyway, it's probably not going to happen, anyway, but you never know. Football's a funny old game.'

JJ: 'Yes it is. Remember when Sir Alex Ferguson said 'Football, bloody football' hahahahahahahahahahah! That was funny wasn't it? Man United are good aren't they? Did you know Man United have the largest fanbase in the world? Did you know Man United have brought through their entire fanbase through their youth academy? . . .**continues ad nauseum until an ulcer/aneurysm occurs**'


Post more you ****!
Made me chuckle for some reason even though it is barely embellished.
Does that make you more funny or him more of a **** ?
 
SPIDERBOY said:
"Guaranteed £75 mill a season"..........correct me by all means if I'm wrong,I may well be,but I'm sure I read somewhere,if the rags fail to qualify for CL,that sum drops dramatically,and does so for every competition they get knocked out of...is that right?

That's what I thought however I'm sure as an upstanding member of the British press Mr Jackson has done the necessary research even if the article itself reads like a rag fanzine.
 
The fucking idiot is on here seconds after writing shit like that.

Nothing more than a wum and his editor will know the back page headline will have armchair rags salivating.

Hope Messi is good at the long ball game lol.
 
He certainly writes some bollocks that Jackson character. How he remains on the staff of a major newspaper is a mystery. I assume they keep him on to pander to the armchair gobshite rags who believe everything the media tell them. He and his ilk will find work harder as the tide turns against the rags and the fair weather casual 'fans' come to us and Chelsea.
 
dannybcity said:
Perhaps he's bored of playing in the Champions League?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/12/lionel-messi-manchester-united-move-barcelona" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... -barcelona</a>

Jamie Jackson
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Monday 12 January 2015 20.40 GMT
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Lionel Messi has alerted Manchester United to his potential availability by casting doubt over his future at Barcelona, with the Argentina forward admitting he does not know where he will be playing next year.

United are the only English club that could afford to buy Messi, particularly if Barcelona were to demand his €250m (£195m) buyout fee in one payment, which would be likely.

Although Manchester City have explored bringing the 27-year-old from Barcelona and retain an interest in him, Uefa’s financial fair play rules mean the champions would struggle to generate enough revenue and have the requisite cash reserves to buy the four-times world player of the year.

This is not the case at United, where Louis van Gaal has been assured there is no limit on the transfer budget. Ed Woodward, the executive vice-chairman, stated in July: “Whether it’s a [world] record or not doesn’t really resonate with us. What resonates is an elite player that the manager wants who is going to be a star for Manchester United.”

Alongside the buyout clause is Messi’s five-year contract, agreed last May, worth £16.3m a season. When this salary is factored in, the total cost of any deal for his transfer would be in the region of an eye-watering £275m.

Real Madrid are the only club who appear able to rival United’s financial muscle – Paris Saint-Germain would also have the restrictions of FFP to consider – but it seems inconceivable Messi would end up at Barcelona’s fiercest rival.

Messi was asked in Zurich before the Ballon d’Or ceremony, at which he finished second to Cristiano Ronaldo, whether he would be interested in playing at another club, having also turned out, as a youth, for Newell’s Old Boys in Argentina. “I am not sure If I will go back to Newell’s Old Boys one day,” he said. “I am not sure where I will be next year. I have always said that I will end my career at Barcelona but as Cristiano said: ‘Only God knows the future.’ Things in football can change overnight.”

Advertisement

United’s record £750m, 10-year kit deal with Adidas starts next season, meaning the club are guaranteed £75m a season from that contract alone. With Woodward continuing to expand the club’s portfolio of major sponsors and the fan-base claimed at 659 million around the world, United would be confident that Messi’s signing would be financially successful.

Messi’s comment came hours after he said it was “lies” that there had been conversations between his representatives and City and Chelsea. Speaking after a 3-1 win over Atlético Madrid, in which he scored the final goal, Messi told Barça TV: “I don’t demand anything for me to stay because I have no intention of leaving anywhere. I’ve heard stories I’ve spoken to Chelsea or City, that’s all lies.”

The comments came in an attempt to quell speculation of a rift with Luis Enrique, the manager, following a turbulent week in which Messi was on the bench as Barça lost to Real Sociedad and during which Andoni Zubizarreta, the sporting director, was sacked.

Jackson writes like a dizzy eyed 10 year old - does this crap really pass for journalism.
 
pudge said:
quiet_riot said:
United are the only English club that could afford to buy Messi, particularly if Barcelona were to demand his €250m (£195m) buyout fee in one payment,


Stopped reading here.
I salute you for soldiering past more than "Jamie Jackson..."

Was the ackson part even necessary?
 
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