Machiavelli
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@SAXON_GB is either a Taff and doesn't want to fess up or his Mum has just shouted him for his Sunday bath.
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Liverpool 2016/17
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Paul Lake's Left Knee
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@SAXON_GB is either a Taff and doesn't want to fess up or his Mum has just shouted him for his Sunday bath.
Fess up to being the one of the left in those videos you mean?
Machiavelli
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Ha ha, the tall gangly one or the little chubby one?Fess up to being the one of the left in those videos you mean?
Paul Lake's Left Knee
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Ha ha, the tall gangly one or the little chubby one?
I was thinking the little chunker but it could be either thinking about it. We need to know if he wants to scrap the academy.
Machiavelli
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And bring the boot room back! LolI was thinking the little chunker but it could be either thinking about it. We need to know if he wants to scrap the academy.
I am here. Not one for lighting candles though.
Hi.
Mind the gap ;-)
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'Because of the better players we have' is effectively saying the same thing - but they didn't come for free. Why shy away from the fact that we've paid handsomely for them. The entire reason we are in the position we're in is because of money. Let's not pretend otherwise.
I haven't suggested anybody here as ever said we have a divine right to win the PL or CL, but I have said (and will stand by it) that plenty of City fans, myself included, have said 'we should be beating so and so' (even before we had the money) - simply because there's an assumption that we're bigger, or have more history, and therefore we should beat 'lesser' teams like Oldham etc. We as City fans aren't immune to arrogance. We can knock Liverpool fans for looking down their noses at us, but we dish it out to others too.
What? What!!!! I say this with the utmost respect...wtf are you going on about? I'm not shying away from anything. What do you want us to do?
Oh I get it. You want me to say, we're the shittest small club in the world who got lucky and we should know our place. Hail Liverpool. Hail the rags.
Happy now?
A Spurs' fan view of Liverpool and the upcoming fixture
Liverpool are a club in dramatic decline. Much as we were under Sugar. Each year the brand of that once great club is a little more tarnished. Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City have all overtaken them. And we are chasing them down.
Games like this are increasingly important to them as they desperately try and regain their status as an elite club. They have to win. If they don't, they slip to their normal upper-mid table position and the lie of "the greatest club side in World" is harder to maintain. Klopp will try and paper over the cracks. He will be charming but he is losing control. He is pulling the levers but nothing is happening. Their cult-like fans and media sycophants are frantically attacking anyone who questions the team, manager or club and they justify their aggressive and unreasonable behaviour because they are the "most knowledgeable fans in football". But the truth is they are bullying their own fans by throwing their 'bedwetting' accusations at anyone who questions the Emperor's new clothes.
More and more people are seeing them for what they are: a decent-ish mid table side - a bit better than Everton, Leicester, Southampton, West Ham - with a (mostly) pretty little history who are desperately trying to convince us all they are something they once were.
The result will not change any of this. Maybe we win, maybe we won't but we are going in the right direction. They are in freefall.
As for the game, Klopp may be able to raise the tempo of his "easy listening" football, and given the recent history between the clubs, Liverpool may be able to get a 1-1 draw.
Although a win at Anfield would be nice, if only for the gnashing of teeth on RAWK and the first #Kloppout sightings of the spring. They seem to be turning on their manager a little earlier this year.
Liverpool are a club in dramatic decline. Much as we were under Sugar. Each year the brand of that once great club is a little more tarnished. Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City have all overtaken them. And we are chasing them down.
Games like this are increasingly important to them as they desperately try and regain their status as an elite club. They have to win. If they don't, they slip to their normal upper-mid table position and the lie of "the greatest club side in World" is harder to maintain. Klopp will try and paper over the cracks. He will be charming but he is losing control. He is pulling the levers but nothing is happening. Their cult-like fans and media sycophants are frantically attacking anyone who questions the team, manager or club and they justify their aggressive and unreasonable behaviour because they are the "most knowledgeable fans in football". But the truth is they are bullying their own fans by throwing their 'bedwetting' accusations at anyone who questions the Emperor's new clothes.
More and more people are seeing them for what they are: a decent-ish mid table side - a bit better than Everton, Leicester, Southampton, West Ham - with a (mostly) pretty little history who are desperately trying to convince us all they are something they once were.
The result will not change any of this. Maybe we win, maybe we won't but we are going in the right direction. They are in freefall.
As for the game, Klopp may be able to raise the tempo of his "easy listening" football, and given the recent history between the clubs, Liverpool may be able to get a 1-1 draw.
Although a win at Anfield would be nice, if only for the gnashing of teeth on RAWK and the first #Kloppout sightings of the spring. They seem to be turning on their manager a little earlier this year.
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I heard somewhere yesterday - it might have been on talkshite's Full Time Phone-in on the way home - that Liverpool has always been a club that challenges for trophies.
So they weren't really a mid-table Division Two side when Shankley took over, then?
So they weren't really a mid-table Division Two side when Shankley took over, then?
To be fair to Liverpool this season, at their best they have been better than Spurs at their best...because Liverpool's best is based on a more fluid fast paced game. But that's a bit like saying we are better than Chelsea. On our day we are but over the season we aren't.
We needed Jesus to fix our faltering attack. We may have Kompany back to fix our defence. I don't know much about who's yet to come in or back for Liverpool but I'd imagine there's not likely to be a saviour. So while we push on to be more consistent over this and next season thus successfully completing our transformation, I think Liverpool with struggle a lot longer in that transition and time is likely to run out before they get there.
Despite all the faults of the Premier League, it's still intriguing. We are in a very interesting transition, Arsenal may soon be in the unknown territory of praying a new manager hits the ground running, United are all over the place, Spurs are a picture of stability but you could just see it all falling apart somehow and Liverpool need a miracle to transform themselves into anything much better than a cup team.
We needed Jesus to fix our faltering attack. We may have Kompany back to fix our defence. I don't know much about who's yet to come in or back for Liverpool but I'd imagine there's not likely to be a saviour. So while we push on to be more consistent over this and next season thus successfully completing our transformation, I think Liverpool with struggle a lot longer in that transition and time is likely to run out before they get there.
Despite all the faults of the Premier League, it's still intriguing. We are in a very interesting transition, Arsenal may soon be in the unknown territory of praying a new manager hits the ground running, United are all over the place, Spurs are a picture of stability but you could just see it all falling apart somehow and Liverpool need a miracle to transform themselves into anything much better than a cup team.
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