Liverpool (A) Post Match Thread.

Stones 'foul' was something you see given occasionally.

Sometimes if the defender dives (like Otamendi was often doing last season) it gets given. Sometimes, though, the defender dives & it isn't given (like often happened Otamendi last season) & you realise that the best way, is to man up & defend it (like Stones didn't).

People bleating about it, are almost as bad as the scousers moaning about Mane's red card.

But then I doubt our fans will still be bleating about it 6 months later, wheras they will still be talking about Mane's red card #nextyear.
Morning mate. Can't agree on this one i'm afraid. Stones has been dealing with these types of balls the same way all season, getting his body in between him and the forward and then using their momentum to turn the opposite way. It's definitely a foul, but it's not the reason we lost.
 
This.

They're on another amazing run, the problem comes when that ends.

This season, they'd been on a run of 1 defeat in 15 games before they played us, came to us and got stuffed and went on a run of 1 win in 9 in all comps (1 in 6 in the league).
Last season, they lost just twice at the halfway point, 2nd in the league 6 points off Chelsea due to 3 extra draws. They beat us, and then proceeded to win just 1 of the next 7 league games to drop out of contention.
2015/16 they were bobbins.
In 2014/15 (year after they won the title), they lost 6 of their first 12 games, went on a run of 1 defeat in 17 games (12 wins) then finished the season with 5 defeats in 9.
In 2013/14 (title winning season), started the season with 1 defeat in 9, then lost 4 of their next 10 games before their 16 game undefeated run before ending the season with 1 win in 3.

Seems to be a boom-bust pattern there, wonder if there was an image, like a chart, that could reflect that. Let's see if this season they can avoid a 2nd capitulation in their season after their "amazing run".


That rags' boom/bust chart for Liverpool is one of their rare moments of successful humour.
 
Morning mate. Can't agree on this one i'm afraid. Stones has been dealing with these types of balls the same way all season, getting his body in between him and the forward and then using their momentum to turn the opposite way. It's definitely a foul, but it's not the reason we lost.

Yes he has, & using his body strength to hold players off when they try to push him, (like Kompany would do)& Stones has been passing the ball properly all season, dominating in the air, charging down shots & running quickly all season, none of which he did at Anfield.

Last season however & also at Everton, Stones meekly losing a challenge like that, was typical. He seemed to grow in physique & aggression, playing next to Kompany for a while, & took it on, alongside Otamendi this season, when both have been exceptional.

Since he came back however, he has been weak & ponderous.
 
I think Stones is one of those players who needs 4/5 games to return to form after an injury and no doubt Peps team are coaching these skills back into him to improve his match concentration.
 
I think Stones is one of those players who needs 4/5 games to return to form after an injury and no doubt Peps team are coaching these skills back into him to improve his match concentration.

You are probably right.

Neither he nor Fernandinho looked fit to me. Stones looked like he'd just come out of hospital & was still under anaethstetic & Fernandinho barely got above 70% running speed.

Both can improve 100% on that performance.
 
Haven’t had a chance to watch the game again but aside from the mistakes that gifted Liverpool their goals I don’t recall them creating much themselves.

Ergo they are a dangerous team to a team like us if we are slightly off our game but they really are quite some distance from being a top side
 

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